I am disappointed with Deep Dungeon

[Yoruichi4478]

I'm disappointed with it, I'd hoped it would be more and less of yet another grind from SE. I was hoping for more of a Nyzul Isle type place tbh. I don't know if it's even worth spamming because I don't see the rewards atm worth the time and grind.

[IceNeko]

I really just hate the RNG part. I could see if the +1/+1 thing happened on 40 and 50 but the fact that I'm still on 27/30 after whats now 8 full runs has gotten old.

Example of today and yesterday. Its just not fun to be at 26, get nothing on the floors 1-49 but hey the 50 boss gives +1/+1 to get to 27. Do a run up to 41 and still not another upgrade so now I'm farming the boss again to get myself to 28/30. That's just downright terrible.

Floor 1-10 is 16min
Floor 11-20 is 20min
Floor 21-30 is 25min
Floor 31-40 is 30-40min depending on if groups bypass stuff.
Floor 41-50 is 35-50 depend on the group.

That means I've now wasted several hours just to get +1 since I only get it on the 50 boss. wtf. I might as well do what other players do and just abandon until I get something good because having to farm the lower levels which I know won't get me anything is terrible.

[Reinha]

That means I've now wasted several hours just to get +1 since I only get it on the 50 boss. wtf. I might as well do what other players do and just abandon until I get something good because having to farm the lower levels which I know won't get me anything is terrible.

You can get upgrades from floor 21 onwards. I know because I went from 29/30 to 30/30 between floors 21 and 24. It's just a matter of luck. But if you reset progress you have 20 more floors to try your luck with than if you just did 41-50 again.

Upgrades anywhere is possible now. I hit a +30 on floors 1-10. In fact, it was even a +3 upgrade ("Your aetherpool armor flares...")

But yeah, odds are still best on 41-50, and guaranteed +1 on the boss is not going to make some people give up crappy 41-49 runs, just as I predicted.

Nice! Yeah the odds are the best the higher you go but IMO it's still stupid to give up so many chances for upgrades and throw away the work for 41-49 if one doesn't happen to get the exact amount of upgrades they needed that time. Using IcyNeko's clear times it took me less time to get to floor 24 where I noticed the upgrade than it would have been to clear floors 41-50 again.

[Aylis]

I really just hate the RNG part. I could see if the +1/+1 thing happened on 40 and 50 but the fact that I'm still on 27/30 after whats now 8 full runs has gotten old.

I'm pretty much in that same boat, I've pretty much decided to just take it slow and mostly wait for the next patch cycle to finish. Just cos if their is one thing I learned from SE over time, is that the next patch cycle will nerf anything RNG in the current patch cycle as the more hardcore players move on to the next RNG heavy content.

[Deceptistar]

I really just hate the RNG part. I could see if the +1/+1 thing happened on 40 and 50 but the fact that I'm still on 27/30 after whats now 8 full runs has gotten old.

I think there was some talk regarding that back when people were running palace all day, back before SE tweeked the chest. Something of the sort that the higher your level is, the better chance the silver chest wont explode/ will give you a better chance at +1.
With all the sneaking, i dont think the new method can test this out correctly running even hundreds. Though the older runners pre-chest tweak might be able to clear this up.
I think this was one of the reasons why we wanted to kill most mobs.

[Cakekizyy]

I think there was some talk regarding that back when people were running palace all day, back before SE tweeked the chest. Something of the sort that the higher your level is, the better chance the silver chest wont explode/ will give you a better chance at +1.
With all the sneaking, i dont think the new method can test this out correctly running even hundreds. Though the older runners pre-chest tweak might be able to clear this up.
I think this was one of the reasons why we wanted to kill most mobs.

Every boss should be guaranteed +1/+1. Even if you geo nothing from chests, max of 6 runs per weapon.

[Deceptistar]

Every boss should be guaranteed +1/+1. Even if you geo nothing from chests, max of 6 runs per weapon.

thats only the last boss. at 60. Unless they dumbed it down even further to all bosses >.> But i wasn't refering to that.

[Cakekizyy]

thats only the last boss. at 60. Unless they dumbed it down even further to all bosses >.> But i wasn't refering to that.

I said should be, not how it is.

[ADVSS]

ran into a dude who was like "how does the upgrades work? open one and hope for the best" considering i get high level upgrades from floors 1-10, maybe it really is just that. we all know what a ffxiv 97% gathering/crafting rate is like. I swear everything is 50/50 unless its guaranteed 100