Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 39
  1. #11
    Player
    Ceasaria's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,332
    Character
    Ceasaria Pheonixia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    I know this is about The Feast, but I can tell you in Shatter, Dragoon are far more powerful than Ninja and Monk from what I have seen with my Black Mage.
    For me, this nerf is a good thing
    (0)

  2. #12
    Player
    Petite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    373
    Character
    Petite Poutine
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    I know this is about The Feast, but I can tell you in Shatter, Dragoon are far more powerful than Ninja and Monk from what I have seen with my Black Mage.
    For me, this nerf is a good thing
    I could care less that we now get +20% instead of 30% crit rate. Its the fact they stripped the positional removal trait from Impulse Rush and made it into a separate ability that every melee dps can now use. As if DRGs didn't have enough OGCD buffs to pop during our burst rotation, now we get another one which was already part of Impulse Rush in the first place. Not only is it now a hassle to use on DRG, it buffed both MNKs and NINs. I would have been ok if only NIN had gotten this version of Enliven (because they needed a little push) and if they had let the trait remain a part of Impulse Rush, but MNKs definitively didn't need the buff.
    (0)
    Last edited by Petite; 07-20-2016 at 04:26 AM.

  3. #13
    Player
    Chaelyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    166
    Character
    Miyuki Tsukiyomi
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    That's a shame since Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw are pretty potent when combined with the old impulse rush (now enliven). I'm actually the opposite and would Wheeling Thrust/Fang and Claw to keep BotD up and would try to only Geirskogul when I was reasonably sure the move would kill or lead to a certain kill.
    Maybe I just suck at DRG haha. xD I play weird. The thing about those 2 BotD abilities was just eh to me, I kinda just had my burst rotation and that was pretty much it for me.
    (0)

  4. #14
    Player
    l---------------l's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    219
    Character
    I'''''l I'''''l
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Won't write a wall of text, will just let this here.

    -DRAGOONS WERE OP. (And they still)
    (1)
    OLD signature is OLD... Meh, too nostalgic to change anyways.


    Alexander Savage Floor 1 clear, server first: https://youtu.be/v2zuShHSb3o
    Adlo spam saves the day!. "How not to do digititis" My unique and last memory of my own made static in Zodiark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o-sAA8c_qc

  5. #15
    Player
    Dimitrii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    849
    Character
    Knives Stryfe
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by l---------------l View Post
    Won't write a wall of text, will just let this here.

    -DRAGOONS WERE OP. (And they still)
    Thank you for your most profound contribution to this thread sir. love that sig. Enjoy your enliven and seeing monk in every feast lobby if you haven't already.
    (0)

  6. #16
    Player Nakanishi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    165
    Character
    Masanobu Nakanishi
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by l---------------l View Post
    Won't write a wall of text, will just let this here.

    -DRAGOONS WERE OP. (And they still)
    Do you even PvP?
    (1)

  7. #17
    Player
    NoelNoel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    78
    Character
    N'oeru Harun
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    It's not all doom and gloom for DRG, I'm certain it's still gonna be really good in the Feast. As Petite mentionned however, setting up the DRG burst is already pretty long and compact, adding enliven to it is a bit weird. I guess it's just gonna be the first thing you do before even using heavy thrust. Anyway I have yet to try DRG again for Feast with the new changes, but I know it's absolutely pathetic and toughtless of SE to let MNK have access to the new enliven. It's like giving them a free blood for blood equivalent without the +25% dmg taken.I'm also a bit scared of what NIN is gonna be capable of if enliven does remove the positionnal for TA/SA. If it does NIN might very well become the new BRD of melees as Duality AE followed by Sneak Attack (no mistake on the skill) and Dream within a dream is an absolutely ridiculous amount of damage in like a 1 sec window.
    Meanwhile SMN is still left unattended...
    I would really want to know what kind of feedback the Japanese players give, that we get this kind of BS changes...
    (1)

  8. #18
    Player
    Petite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    373
    Character
    Petite Poutine
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by l---------------l View Post
    Won't write a wall of text, will just let this here.

    -DRAGOONS WERE OP. (And they still)
    Eh, you probably didn't even read the opening post given how its a wall of text so I'll forgive you for thinking DRG got a huge nerf. I feel like I've repeated myself enough already so I'll just say it one last time.

    Bottom line is that DRG got slightly nerfed as Enliven has now made their burst clunkier and because Impulse Rush now gives 20% crit rate instead of 30%. No huge deal. The real nerf comes from the two other jobs getting a big boon through Enliven, making DRG now feel lackluster when compared to them.

    If DRGs are OP to you, I don't even want to know what you think about MNKs now.
    (0)
    Last edited by Petite; 07-20-2016 at 09:41 AM.

  9. #19
    Player
    Dimitrii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    849
    Character
    Knives Stryfe
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    If DRGs are OP to you, I don't even want to know what you think about MNKs now.
    The guy is a monk and is just trolling, dont bother.
    (1)

  10. #20
    Player
    Tussin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    211
    Character
    Zajeel Zugunruhe
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    i feel completely useless as a Dragoon in pvp now.

    Monks and Ninja's do it better.

    i can be CC'ed so much, when i am not they can sprint away and kite me.

    without thrown weapon i can't stick to my target for very long

    some burst was the only thing we had. our Slow got nerfed last patch, this gets nerfed

    Monk and Ninjas have wayyyyyyy better tools and abilities to outclass me in function and utility.

    so much for even trying
    (1)

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast