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  1. #71
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
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    Character
    Alexander Dragonfang
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Spirit of the game: "Players should play and learn to get the best weapons and achievements, we don`t want them to buy it".
    Effects on the game of that Spirit: Crafters can`t craft any BiS weapon.
    Community: "Hey, im SELLING content, drops and achievements even!"
    Devs: "Ok then."
    Crafters: "What the f-"

    In short, either give crafters the ability to create BiS gear superior to raiding or punish as a baneable offense raid selling.
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  2. #72
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
    The problem is it's not as simple as teaching people how to play; otherwise, "good" players would just be one-shotting raids as they came out.
    I would probably offer a service to help people learn to play their class. Most PF'S I join to help with, people don't know their class well enough to DPS/Heal etc while doing mechanics so they die to enrage or DPS checks and tank busters. Also reading comprehension is often a factor in what skills actually do.

    Mastering the basics would be a huge help in learning the "Dance" for each fight.
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  3. #73
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    Confidence_Trick's Avatar
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    Dec 2015
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    Character
    Foedral Fell
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I say go for it - sell away. It would be the only way I would ever clear this sort of content, should I ever get around to it.
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  4. #74
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Kosmos Meishou
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I don't think it's within the spirit of the rules, the game, or the lore. I have removed players from my FC for selling runs, and even in one case selling quick queue times. My FCs stated aims and principles include helping each other and others for the satisfaction that comes from helping. Acting as mercenaries or sell-swords goes against our values as a group who help for the sake of helping.

    I don't regret taking such action, but I remain very disappointed than those involved felt that their actions were perfectly fine.

    Selling runs, clears or queue times goes against the core values we as Warriors of Light should be exemplars of. I know many see nothing wrong in it, which is a sad commentary on how people are, even in a fantasy setting that encourages us to be the best we can be.

    Help others for the satisftion of knowing you helped, nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps one day, those you helped will help others and pay it forward, and improve our community.
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