Need/greed issue

[JisKing98]

So why is it that you can roll Need on a piece of gear if you are that gears job/class yet your said piece you have on is higher ilvl in raids or dungeons why? For example, if you have a 240 head piece, you shouldn't be able to roll on a 200 piece since you obviously have the better option and instead be given the option to roll greed on it like the rest of the party. its frustrating when your trying to gear up a alt job/class when the party member constantly rolls need on things they have no business of having. instead allow the rest of the party to roll on in case a party member actually needs it to gear up.

and please none of this salt/gitgud mentality, i want some real thoughts on this issue.

[Elleia]

Well, some people roll need on gear simply because they want the piece for glamour, or wants to trade it in for gc seals. Imagine being forced to greed on something you really want for glamour and losing the roll every time. Usually, if someone requests a piece of gear, I'll pass on it and let them have it (unless I really want it for glamour and have been trying to get it forever, haha). If nobody says anything, then it's fair game.

[Cakekizyy]

Need does not just mean for ilvl upgrades.

[Yudzster]

glamour/desynth/company seal

[Taika]

It's because you can still use gear even if it's not an actual upgrade for you. You can desynth it or you can turn it in to GC seals for the current relic phase. A person may need the piece even though they don't need it for a gear upgrade. If this option was removed so that you can't need lower item level pieces than what you have on these people might just run the content in lower item level gear to be able to need for the pieces. At the same time, the only currently relevant gear are Savage, Lore and Weeping City gear, and no one's looting those away from you for seals or whatever.

[bass9020]

If they aren't on that role then its up to the person who can need it. Cant really change a system thats working as intended.

[AskaRay]

Glamour.

Example: all the new Bard gear in dungeons is way below ilvl for me, but I really want to look like a cowboy, so I'll need it so hard.
If you want it, go on that job/role.

I've been healing EX roulette solely because I needed the upgrade body piece, as an actual upgrade, but of course others could need on it if I wasn't healing. Is that fine? Sure, they were the ones healing. So instead I healed to make sure I got it. (And after about 500000 runs I finally did...)

[Alistaire]

This is a thread topic that pops up every once in a while, always turns out the same way.

[alimdia]

glamour/desynth/company seal

what this guy said.
if you want it ask for it most ppl will pass.
if you dont ask you dont get

[ZanaWintersong]

Also, highest ilvl isn't always BiS in some cases. This mostly applies to Weeping City, but I'd hate it if I couldn't have needed on the casting body, simply because I have the 240 lore one. Admittedly, people aren't likely to greed on it due to the once per week thing.