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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    The best part of 3.3 was where Yoshi P said Deep Dungeon was delayed because he didn't want us to be overloaded with content.
    Truthfully I think that's the best thing they could have done... If they put Palace of the Dead in with 3.3, everyone would probably be done already with no new content coming for another 2.5 months... Do I think Palace of the Dead will keep people entertained for 2 months? Probably not, but staggering out the casual content is the only option they have since no1 raids..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Truthfully I think that's the best thing they could have done... If they put Palace of the Dead in with 3.3, everyone would probably be done already with no new content coming for another 2.5 months... Do I think Palace of the Dead will keep people entertained for 2 months? Probably not, but staggering out the casual content is the only option they have since no1 raids..
    That does make more sense. 3.3 is so light on content even including deep dungeon, best to spread it out. I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Truthfully I think that's the best thing they could have done... If they put Palace of the Dead in with 3.3, everyone would probably be done already with no new content coming for another 2.5 months... Do I think Palace of the Dead will keep people entertained for 2 months? Probably not, but staggering out the casual content is the only option they have since no1 raids..
    Thing is, no amount of content they put out will ever last because gamers nowadays consume content at a significantly faster rate than any developer can sate. Legion is coming out and I guarantee plenty of WoW players will have it completely done within a month. That expansion has to last an entire year. Now that isn't to say either game couldn't offer more, however there will never be a time where we're not "waiting" because those of us with ample time will finish what they do release within hours or days. Which segues nicely to another point. FFXIV caters to a demographic of players who aren't capable of logging in 6-10 hours a day, everyday. Therefore, plenty of what they release does last longer than some may perceive.
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    How dare you like things!
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    This patch honestly doesn't matter regardless of how good it could've been. You have legion coming next month which will influence the playerbase for at least a month. More than likely 3.4 will come out in October (no later than November) with whatever they are deciding to do for exploration and wow will probably release their first raid around the same time. This playerbase up and down will continue till WoW's usual content drought after 3-4 updates over a 6-7 month period. By then 4.0 will be on its way while people are subbing/unsubbing from whatever the possible 2 part patch 3.5 will be. Kinda funny how predictable all these games are.
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    A big problem with Diadem is that it was half baked and way too unrestricted so it led to people doing what is most efficient: standing in one place chain pulling. Unfortunately since none of the monsters in there have any depth beyond "I put a debuff on you then do a tank buster," the entire zone is super boring. I think by the third time I entered I couldn't stand to play it for more than 15 minutes. Also this ultra boring ultra easy activity gave the best rewards in the game by far. Hoooooooooly hell what a misstep on something that could have been awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    A big problem with Diadem is that it was half baked and way too unrestricted so it led to people doing what is most efficient: standing in one place chain pulling. Unfortunately since none of the monsters in there have any depth beyond "I put a debuff on you then do a tank buster," the entire zone is super boring. I think by the third time I entered I couldn't stand to play it for more than 15 minutes. Also this ultra boring ultra easy activity gave the best rewards in the game by far. Hoooooooooly hell what a misstep on something that could have been awesome.
    Yeah that was my point, neither diadem nor aquapolis look like they had a lot of effort put into them. That's not necessarily bad by itself but there's room for more content if the same # of people that worked on 3 dungeons are working on the content now. And yeah aquapolis being a casual way of doing tomes and making gil was pretty much guaranteed to be received well, but it's already losing its steam judging by map costs and pf frequency.
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    I don't know how big the dev team is but I imagine it's quite the strain to be developing all this content alongside another full expansion. WoW didn't add new content this quickly iirc. It's like that triangle of project mgmt thing. You can either have it fast and good but not much of it or a fair amount of good stuff but released much slower. Or you can have lots of content fast but then it's terrible. You can't have lots of good content at a fast pace.

    Add to all that we're also getting expansions (so far) way faster than WoW did. Also, they are trying new things. Diadem (that was trash tho), Aquapolis, Palace of the Dead. All new things a and then forum posters dookie on it immediately; which I imagine is quite disheartening.

    I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm alright with the content right now. The game became much more enjoyable when I became casualcore. Trying everything a bit at a time that the game offers is better than trying to ex/raid all the time.
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    Is almost as if they released content for it to be dead. And they never overhaul or fix it. Diadem and Aquapolis are such good ideas gone terribly wrong. Hunts were the same. Goldsaucer same...

    Developer team needs to start caring about the shape of their content.
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    A while ago my friends brought up a discussion over the recent patches and wondered if they were getting smaller in size. We used to get 3 dungeons at one point instead of just 2 every patch. I believe they said it started during Heavensward though I could be wrong. Also Hunts seem more ignored as well and almost loses its worth when you have dungeons that give you reasonable gear to progress. Unless you want the original hunt gear (not the centurio stuff) because centurio seals don't have Hunt gear of its own you can buy, instead its the previous tome's gear.

    Maybe they'll add something next patch prior because they often catch onto these things after people take notice, besides people still do these things often just for the lore unless there's something else they're grinding them for. Not counting leves, not sure what they're doing with those...
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