i dont mind syncing but i really hope SE let me use all skills despite level sync

[KitingGenbu]

What I really want is for there to just be a controlled sync feature like in rift where you can control what level you want to go down to. Would be very nice for the fate grind....

Actually XI had this feature too so wtf dev team?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Not to mention WHMs Holy spamming everything.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The only way they could do this is by lowering the potency of all our attacks to competent the low level content, otherwise any geared DPS would rob hate within seconds from a new tank. In fact, I just did A Thousand Maws last yesterday and despite the tank doing fairly well as a new player, if I popped Internal Release alongside ID spamming, I was dangerously close to stealing hate every pull (and did a few times). A full four tier combo would basically make me the tank.

[RLofOBFL]

Level 60 tanks struggle to keep aggro when I play BLM. I can't imagine a poor noob tank who already struggles to keep aggro against a normal blm using fire 1 trying to be MT against fire 4, which is 100 potency stronger(180 vs 280). I ALREADY end up as MT 90% of the time if I BLM low level dungeons, with Flare & Fire 4 I may as well have queued as a tank w/o any armor on bc it's the same thing.


I don't like syncing but it's done for balancing reasons. Tanking low level is also a major pain as it is now.

[Snugglebutt]

As other people have mentioned, the only way for it to to even be applicable would be lowering the potency of all such skills which is probably more work than it's worth. It would cause a lot of balancing issues for low level players vs high level ones in the same instance. In the end, it simply is not a viable thing to do I think especially since do not need those other skills to clear the content.

[Voltyblast]

I do think it's possible: in other games they allow you to use all of your cap talents and skills but with reduced potency and damage, so I can see this being possible...but it depends if they think it's worth or not (or just lazyness)

[Snugglebutt]

I do think it's possible: in other games they allow you to use all of your cap talents and skills but with reduced potency and damage, so I can see this being possible...but it depends if they think it's worth or not (or just lazyness)

I wouldn't say it is lazy to not do it, more like it's not worth doing. The only real benefit would be so people would not have to adjust their end game rotations, a lack of desire to adapt because if such occurred and if SE did it then by the end of the vast amount of balancing adjustments and potency changes you wouldn't clear it that much faster. Certainly not anywhere near as fast as simply going in unsync'd. It is a vast amount of work that would need to be done on SE's end for something that has hardly any benefit, especially since can already go in unsync'd mode if wanted access to all your skills and such.

[Voltyblast]

I wouldn't say it is lazy to not do it, more like it's not worth doing.

In my opinion it is worth doing it: a lot of major mechanics require the player to use all of their skills, but with this constant limitation while synch will always limit their abilities, without learning any proper rotations.

Let me put this way: I levelled my dragoon with only level roulettes (back in ARR) so I was constantly struggling with the skills, but I never had the chance to use the high level ones until I reached 50: when I was capped It was much harder to understand what to do, because i never had the chance to practice. Unless you level constantly with your current class (I did with warrior) then you don't have problems, but usually you use most of the skills in dungeons anyway. Having the chance of bringing all skills at once, albeit with lower potency, would be hugely beneficial.

If not, then I guess all I can say is, "Enjoy your 1-2" combos. But I will say this again: other games do this fairly well, so while it's a big deal it might be worth trying.

[Neophyte]

In my opinion it is worth doing it: a lot of major mechanics require the player to use all of their skills, but with this constant limitation while synch will always limit their abilities, without learning any proper rotations.

You say it's 'worth doing it', but you seem to not see any of the downsides.

A BLM or THM can already have 80-100% of the tanks hate in low level. Now they get double Flare.
Sooo... not only Flare has to be nerfed, every command has to be nerfed, depending on two parameters: your level (toolkit) and the content.
While now only your gears have to be nerfed depending on 1 parameter, the content (which has to stay, too).

What happens to people, who are not comfoertble with lvl60 rotation, if they get Sastasha and a full lvl60 rotation is nerfed down to match a lvl17 rotation:
A fire4 would do less than fire1 now (since leylines, etc) and fire1 would do next to nothing.
They will do abysmal little damage, if they don't do a proper rotation.

A SMNs toolkit has to be nerfed that all DoTs spread on all enemies + painflares + deathflares match the dps you can do with 1-2 DoTs (no bane) + ruin.
Lol, so Bio, Bio2, Miasma, Painflare, Deathflare, Ruin3 get all nerfed to 20 potency?!


Soooo... That was dps skills, what about healing/tanking?
In fact you can already see what happens: A SCH can use one lvl 30 ability regardless lvl sync. And it is OP and unbalanced like nothing else: fairy.

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To illustrate that:
This is right now the 'table'/'function' for every job, when it comes down to synching (numbers made up):


With your idea, you need a table or a function which gives you something likes this:


You need for every class a seperate table/function + the one above still.

(Too lazy to make a right looking table with two keys -.- and mixed up Totorak and Tamtara xD)

[Voltyblast]

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I didn't say it would be easy, but it would be worth giving it a shot. Plus it's not really fun doing low level dungeons for that reason: you are constantly locked on the best skills. And again, why other games can do this just fine, but this can't? Not to sound silly or cocky but the game isn't what I'd call complex: most jobs have just one or two rotations at best, repeated ad nauseam. Tanks usually have one!
Heck, SWTOR does it really well and Wow's (worst game ever yadda yadda, insert your joke here if you care) time event is also very fun, especially because those heroics are harder than the usual ones and I had a lot of fun remember the old tactics, while still having all of my talents. They're not as hard but still fun to do.

So...yeah, there would be downsides but, to be perfectly honest on this, it's not my job figuring and solving these issues: I could say to give the classes a % damage nerf or something like that but I'm not a programmer. I'm not saying that they're lazy or whatever, but the usual response someone gets for this is the canonical "then program this game yourself". However considering that I'm a customer and I want to support the company I'm following, I'm just giving my take. If they don't care about this, so will I: I'm not losing sleep over it.
Still, considering that we already have gear synch when doing fates and item level limit on certain dungeons, the possibilities are there if they actually bother to give it a try (yes it still locks skills I know, but there's a lot of synch in this game). But if it's fine for them and most of the players then I don't see this changing in the near future.

Although if we had, it would make those old levelling dungeons less boring...just sayin'