This needs to stop!!!

[Nicobo]

No I followed the marks. Tanks are simply unable to do their job effectively. This means I am unable to do my job effectively. I do want to thank everyone for all of the helpful advice. I learned now to switch to 2.0 starting out and then pause instead of casting one after the other. Also, this not a thread to complain but to ask for advice. So instead of trying to seem cool Nicobo, try being helpful and offer advice next time.

Hey you are an very experienced player, seriously if those tanks did not intentionally let you die, how could it happen?
When you got a tank like this, very likely more mobs will go to the healers. ^^;

[Nicobo]

I have quelling and I use it and even wait about 5 seconds until the first enmity combo from tank is complete. I have tried not attacking when I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking, I havve also tried standing close where the tank can easily get hate back of I pull hate, I have tried not using enochian and just sticking with basic 2.x stuff, I even tried not using rs nut only eating food.

Note: this happens even with tanks who have 240 weapon and gear, I've even pulled hate from tanks who use their dmg boosting abilities, ninja who use ss on me and then their other hate ability (do not know the name) on the tank. I really want to nip this in the bud. So any advice would be appreciated as its becoming annoying.

FYI, below is what I read from above situtaion:

(I am very frustrating bcoz my BLM is too powerful , even with tanks who have 240 weapon and gear, I've even pulled hate from tanks who use their dmg boosting abilities, ninja who use ss on me and then their other hate ability (do not know the name) on the tank.)

It will happen only if you were not attacking tank's target.

1. Wait 5 sec, tank finished first enmity combo (tanks who have 240 weapon and gear)
2. I used QS, ninja used ss on me and then their other hate ability
3. not attacking if still can pull hate
4. no enochian and stick with 2.0
5. "I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking"

That's why I tho you were not attacking the tank's target, it was not what trying to seem cool, please understand. ^^;
You may offer some advices to these tanks instead of asking for advice for you as you are already very experienced.

[XiXiQ]

If you keep an eye on the mobs emnity status, and you're main using f2/flare, swap targets to a green one when you see your target going yellow. Sometimes in DF you have to adjust to the tank rather than all-out DPS. some can handle whatever you throw at them, some it's better not to buff during trash... and some can't even manage a flare...

if you do aggro something, use manawall/ward to assist the healer.

[LunaFaye]

That's why I tho you were not attacking the tank's target, it was not what trying to seem cool, please understand. ^^;
You may offer some advices to these tanks instead of asking for advice for you as you are already very experienced.

It don't matter what target someone attacks. Sure people mark stuff, but if you're playing blm (ARR content) or SMN or even brd, that's a multi target class.

With that mentioned, blm now is a very strong single target class, however the only time I've seen them pull hate, is if the tank pulls, flash/overpower and goes afk. I've seen tanks mark something as 1,2, 3 and then attack 4 themselves, but not because they wanna hit every single target to make sure they have hate on it, no because they can't read their own signs lol.

3 Years ago we stopped marking shit, and every time I see it nowadays in duty finder it's gonna be ignored. If the tank is doing his job, granted nobody attacks something before he/she even pulls, then there should be no issues with hate what so ever. If you are still one of those tanks that marks and then blame the dps for not attacking your precious nr.1, please re roll and stop with your advice.

[MaikoRain]

100% You are geting bad tanks or very under geared ones.
I have both war and pld at ilvl 233.
I have never run into any issues with overgeared blm.
Yes they do stay at 60%-80% hate but I don't let them get any higher.
As a tank its your job to keep hate even if it means you dont get to dps and just flash/overpower till they all die.

[MaikoRain]

100% You are geting bad tanks or very under geared ones.
I have both war and pld at ilvl 233.
I have never run into any issues with overgeared blm.
Yes they do stay at 60%-80% hate but I don't let them get any higher.
As a tank its your job to keep hate even if it means you dont get to dps and just flash/overpower till they all die.

[Nicobo]

It don't matter what target someone attacks. Sure people mark stuff, but if you're playing blm (ARR content) or SMN or even brd, that's a multi target class.
With that mentioned, blm now is a very strong single target class, however the only time I've seen them pull hate, is if the tank pulls, flash/overpower and goes afk. I've seen tanks mark something as 1,2, 3 and then attack 4 themselves, but not because they wanna hit every single target to make sure they have hate on it, no because they can't read their own signs lol.
3 Years ago we stopped marking shit, and every time I see it nowadays in duty finder it's gonna be ignored. If the tank is doing his job, granted nobody attacks something before he/she even pulls, then there should be no issues with hate what so ever. If you are still one of those tanks that marks and then blame the dps for not attacking your precious nr.1, please re roll and stop with your advice.

That's why I said those tanks need advice but not OP. ^^;

But, if you read OP carefully again, the situation was not what you mentioned a lazy tank.
Op said the tank did everything, even no mentioned shield oath etc but in this case i suppose it was up, and the NIN also helped with this. Moreover, the healer was stand on their side.
So can you give some advise to OP as he wishes?

[Lidel417]

Any tank above 220 ilv worth their salt should not be losing aggro to you even without QS. I have every tank at 60 at 230 ilv+ and the only time I have to pay attention to threat is when I have a geared/skilled SMN doing 3-4k on pulls. Boss wise only my WAR can easily keep up with MNK/BLM dps in deliverance after my opener. I can see DRK/PLD losing aggro much easier on single targets if they sit in their dps stance.

TLDR: Your tanks are the equivalent to the dps I get in 230+ gear only doing 400 dps.

[MahoSenshi]

Please stop blaming tanks. Read post #32.
Imo all of this is either trolling or bragging.

[Jim_Berry]

Most tanks are pressured into functioning as a DPS, so they spend more time doing dps combos instead of enmity combos. I saw a PLD pop Flight or Fight before Shield Lob. After that, he did his Halone combo, Scorn, then began to focus on Royal Authority. He did Royal and Goring combos two or three times and seem to only rely on Scorn and Savage Blade for enmity.

That said, the BLM, and sometimes the WHM, would take hate, causing us to get cleaved. Personally, I feel like if a DPS took hate, then they are hitting hard. That's what they are there for.