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    Player
    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Marianno View Post
    What can I do to solve the enmity problems on my BLM? I have quelling and I use it and even wait about 5 seconds until the first enmity combo from tank is complete. I have tried not attacking when I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking, I havve also tried standing close where the tank can easily get hate back of I pull hate, I have tried not using enochian and just sticking with basic 2.x stuff, I even tried not using rs nut only eating food. I jave had some tanks leave when they get a blm/drg, blm/brd, blm/blm in party. I have never seen tank leave when I play smn. Please help, its really annoying and I feel like I'm running out of things to try.
    Congratulations you find bad tanks nothing else.
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    DaftVagrant's Avatar
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    Ryo Kinoshita
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Marianno View Post
    What can I do to solve the enmity problems on my BLM? I have quelling and I use it and even wait about 5 seconds until the first enmity combo from tank is complete. I have tried not attacking when I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking, I havve also tried standing close where the tank can easily get hate back of I pull hate, I have tried not using enochian and just sticking with basic 2.x stuff, I even tried not using rs nut only eating food. I jave had some tanks leave when they get a blm/drg, blm/brd, blm/blm in party. I have never seen tank leave when I play smn. Please help, its really annoying and I feel like I'm running out of things to try.
    I play both BLM and PLD, so it might be that I understand how BLM works but I think you are just getting lazy tanks. My PLD is ilvl 220 with only 210 weap, and I only lose aggro once in a great while. Usually I can attribute it to me slacking.
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    Zeo Valefor
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    definitely bad tanks. Sounds like they are more worried about pulling max dps instead of keeping hate and then doing their max dps.
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    CorvinusV's Avatar
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    Vincent Corvinus
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by crc0427 View Post
    definitely bad tanks. Sounds like they are more worried about pulling max dps instead of keeping hate...
    Definitely this. A tank focusing primarily on tanking, if they're competent and geared, will not be losing aggro. Problem is tanks nowadays treat tanking as secondary to DPS.
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Marianno View Post
    What can I do to solve the enmity problems on my BLM? I have quelling and I use it and even wait about 5 seconds until the first enmity combo from tank is complete.
    Sounds like terribad tanks. Just keep doing what you're doing, if the tanks can't git gud, its not your fault. Believe me, it gets worse when you receive Foe Requiem support from a BRD. As a tank, if I know the emnity is a lost cause, I simply just concede aggro and then provoke it back in combination with a Butcher's block. That being said, I always try to pull a boss with Unchained as a Warrior to prevent this sort of thing.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Just watch your Enmity bars and switch to 2.0 rotation. If they can't handle even that just go full Ice Mage.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Just watch your Enmity bars and switch to 2.0 rotation. If they can't handle even that just go full Ice Mage.
    This is 100% bad advice because it validates what the tank is doing. Rather than telling terrible tanks that we can help them do their job by not doing our own jobs, we should be doing our jobs and telling them how to deal with it.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    This is 100% bad advice because it validates what the tank is doing. Rather than telling terrible tanks that we can help them do their job by not doing our own jobs, we should be doing our jobs and telling them how to deal with it.
    If you are confident that you can kill the enemy quickly then by all means unleash the Fire 4. If the tank is undergeared and you quite simply can't clear content because the party is unable to work together then I guess you are screwed.

    And if it's where Quelling does nothing to save you then rip you. 90% of all content will not ever need quelling.
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    Lala Yuki
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    If you are confident that you can kill the enemy quickly then by all means unleash the Fire 4. If the tank is undergeared and you quite simply can't clear content because the party is unable to work together then I guess you are screwed.

    And if it's where Quelling does nothing to save you then rip you. 90% of all content will not ever need quelling.
    I think in situations where you're pulling full hate no matter what & the party threatens to kick you, full ice mage til tank establishes enough aggro or just letting yourself get kicked are your only options.
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    I think you must be that guy who did not following the Marks (the compaint in another thread...^^; )
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