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  1. #1
    Player
    Gumbercules's Avatar
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    Character
    Gumbercules Thesecond
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 80
    Most times when i pull hate on a decent tank, its cuz i started to do damage on mobs before he finishes gathering them, but just run the mob to tank so it gets hit by his abilities and they tend to grab it off me. Namely happens on PLDs that decide to "save" the circle of scorn (which on most pulls you really dont need too you will have it off cd by the time you finish the gathering) Do keep in mind that alot of tanks will just ignore one mob on you specially if you start to kite it away from them, and if its on low HP. (when I pull a mob like this i just switch to it and blow the gcd needed to finish it)
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    Cursling's Avatar
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    Character
    Blightling Jarlska
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    The tank will be doing something wrong. They're either not that good at their job, playing as a dps the whole time or you've over geared them by a fair way and it's tough to keep up with you.

    I've had higher ilvl BLM pump out as much as possible and not even get to 50% enmity, just meant I stance danced on only bosses as trash died so quickly I didn't need to.

    Keep pressing on buddy, seems like you're doing fine, just getting bad groups.
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Bad tanks, as i myself can cycle between enemies (with quelling strikes) and get agro.
    Usually when there is 3 or less enemies and i get agro or close to i switch target and tend to get agro there also. I also tend to wait a bit before attacking since you never know what kind of tanks you get
    And i do not always enjoy tanking as blm, lol
    Heck i sometimes pull agro from tanks better geared then i...
    Like Ageofwar stated sometimes it is probably just best to quickly burn down an enemy
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    Mirch's Avatar
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    Character
    Mirchea Luslec
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    blm gets hate over tank? blame the healer, first thing to do, always. blame the healer
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    Player
    Maero's Avatar
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Only if a whm :P
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    Player
    Mirch's Avatar
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    Character
    Mirchea Luslec
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Only if a whm :P
    wrong, only if a healer, the card player and the tamer of fairies are no different than gandalf healer lul, alway blame the healer.

    your synthesis NQs at 99% quality? blame healer.

    you don't like all 3 healers are to blamed? don't play the game. easy.
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  7. #7
    Player
    Maero's Avatar
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Wow someone cannot take a joke, it is a well known fact people joke around stating "blame whm"
    Even whm's i know laugh about this
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  8. #8
    Player
    Llus's Avatar
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    Dec 2016
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    Character
    Agret Fury
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    DF expert dungeon

    Geared tank:
    Nin+Nin - Pull medium, mark targets, 1-2 AoE Agro, stay on target, switch to DPS stance only when group is < 4
    Nin+Drg/Mnk - Pull medium, mark targets for ninja - ninja stay on target, Drg/Mnk stay on target, weave in AoE, switch to DPS stance when group < 5
    Ranged + Mele - same as above, throw out AoE aggro every now and then; switch to DPS stance when group is < 4
    Ranged + Ranged - Pull big, Don't drop tank stance, use AoE aggro often, don't mark targets
    Speedrun Ranged + Ranged - Pull big, Be War Stay in tank stance, Have a WHM, BOOM BOOM BOOM

    Undergeared tank:
    Any DPS - mark targets, spam AoE aggro, don't drop tank stance - thank Heals and DPS for the carry

    Geared DPS:
    use Agro mitigation, mele focus targets, ranged swap targets as needed

    Undergeared DPS:
    use Agro mitigation or sit and wait for the tank to catch up


    Geared Healer:
    use Agro mitigation + AoE stun

    Undergeared Healer:
    use Agro mitigation + AoE stun
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  9. #9
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    Character
    E'dok Edok
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    stuff about NIN
    The NIN stuff is wrong. NINs have excellent aoe, and can aoe packs of mobs down pretty well. They should not be using a single target rotation if you pull 4 or more enemies. (Technically it's 3 or more, but TP can be an issue if the other dps is bad).
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    Character
    Blufnix Greedalox
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    The NIN stuff is wrong. NINs have excellent aoe, and can aoe packs of mobs down pretty well. They should not be using a single target rotation if you pull 4 or more enemies. (Technically it's 3 or more, but TP can be an issue if the other dps is bad).
    Excellent may be an exaggeration. It ain't bad, but it aint EXCELLENT.
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