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  1. #41
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    azazelhelix's Avatar
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    Azazel Helix
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I will say tank wants to dps more then hold hate. I was in a12 (I was drk). The war wanted to tank, being normal who cares. But the black Mage pulled every time and eat burning heat! (I hope that's the name of it). He was in dps stance. So rage happened and I tanked it just fine. The tank event went in to tanking stance and tryed to pull it back from me the hole time. Never had an issue. Me and war had 240 weapons and the Blm had 255 weapon.
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  2. #42
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Not much you can do if tanks are so bad that quelling doesn't help.
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  3. #43
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    Jim_Berry's Avatar
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    Jim Berry
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    As a tank, I am always happy when a DPS is doing their job. At the same, if I can't keep a mob off a DPS, then I'm not doing my job. There will be times where a mob WILL wander off, but it should easily be recovered. Playing casually, I can still keep mobs on me. The one thing I hated as NIN is when a mob comes for me from a simple Duality + Aoelian Edge (buffed).
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    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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  4. #44
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    Inosaska's Avatar
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    Lotharius Lionheart
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Always check your tanks gear as it gives a good idea of how far along they're for gearing. If you notice there is less better then yours give the tank time to build hate and then attack and just remember not to go full throttle as you will easily take hate from the tank if your gear is better.
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  5. #45
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    Always check your tanks gear as it gives a good idea of how far along they're for gearing. If you notice there is less better then yours give the tank time to build hate and then attack and just remember not to go full throttle as you will easily take hate from the tank if your gear is better.
    For that the tank has to be at least 20 ilvl below but its still possible to keep hate as tank if you know what you are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  6. #46
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    TomShane's Avatar
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    Thurmin Murmin
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Ya play with better tanks. This is always avoidable. Even if they are under geared a ninja can solve the problem
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  7. #47
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    Gumbercules's Avatar
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 80
    Most times when i pull hate on a decent tank, its cuz i started to do damage on mobs before he finishes gathering them, but just run the mob to tank so it gets hit by his abilities and they tend to grab it off me. Namely happens on PLDs that decide to "save" the circle of scorn (which on most pulls you really dont need too you will have it off cd by the time you finish the gathering) Do keep in mind that alot of tanks will just ignore one mob on you specially if you start to kite it away from them, and if its on low HP. (when I pull a mob like this i just switch to it and blow the gcd needed to finish it)
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  8. #48
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    Cursling's Avatar
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    Character
    Blightling Jarlska
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    The tank will be doing something wrong. They're either not that good at their job, playing as a dps the whole time or you've over geared them by a fair way and it's tough to keep up with you.

    I've had higher ilvl BLM pump out as much as possible and not even get to 50% enmity, just meant I stance danced on only bosses as trash died so quickly I didn't need to.

    Keep pressing on buddy, seems like you're doing fine, just getting bad groups.
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  9. #49
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Bad tanks, as i myself can cycle between enemies (with quelling strikes) and get agro.
    Usually when there is 3 or less enemies and i get agro or close to i switch target and tend to get agro there also. I also tend to wait a bit before attacking since you never know what kind of tanks you get
    And i do not always enjoy tanking as blm, lol
    Heck i sometimes pull agro from tanks better geared then i...
    Like Ageofwar stated sometimes it is probably just best to quickly burn down an enemy
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  10. #50
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    CorvinusV's Avatar
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    Vincent Corvinus
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by crc0427 View Post
    definitely bad tanks. Sounds like they are more worried about pulling max dps instead of keeping hate...
    Definitely this. A tank focusing primarily on tanking, if they're competent and geared, will not be losing aggro. Problem is tanks nowadays treat tanking as secondary to DPS.
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