This needs to stop!!!

[Marianno]

What can I do to solve the enmity problems on my BLM? I have quelling and I use it and even wait about 5 seconds until the first enmity combo from tank is complete. I have tried not attacking when I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking, I havve also tried standing close where the tank can easily get hate back of I pull hate, I have tried not using enochian and just sticking with basic 2.x stuff, I even tried not using rs nut only eating food. I jave had some tanks leave when they get a blm/drg, blm/brd, blm/blm in party. I have never seen tank leave when I play smn. Please help, its really annoying and I feel like I'm running out of things to try.

[Marianno]

Note: this happens even with tanks who have 240 weapon and gear, I've even pulled hate from tanks who use their dmg boosting abilities, ninja who use ss on me and then their other hate ability (do not know the name) on the tank. I really want to nip this in the bud. So any advice would be appreciated as its becoming annoying.

[Nicobo]

I have quelling and I use it and even wait about 5 seconds until the first enmity combo from tank is complete. I have tried not attacking when I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking, I havve also tried standing close where the tank can easily get hate back of I pull hate, I have tried not using enochian and just sticking with basic 2.x stuff, I even tried not using rs nut only eating food.

Note: this happens even with tanks who have 240 weapon and gear, I've even pulled hate from tanks who use their dmg boosting abilities, ninja who use ss on me and then their other hate ability (do not know the name) on the tank. I really want to nip this in the bud. So any advice would be appreciated as its becoming annoying.

FYI, below is what I read from above situtaion:

(I am very frustrating bcoz my BLM is too powerful , even with tanks who have 240 weapon and gear, I've even pulled hate from tanks who use their dmg boosting abilities, ninja who use ss on me and then their other hate ability (do not know the name) on the tank.)

It will happen only if you were not attacking tank's target.

1. Wait 5 sec, tank finished first enmity combo (tanks who have 240 weapon and gear)
2. I used QS, ninja used ss on me and then their other hate ability
3. not attacking if still can pull hate
4. no enochian and stick with 2.0
5. "I pull hate and have been kicked because healers tell me to kick attacking"

That's why I tho you were not attacking the tank's target, it was not what trying to seem cool, please understand. ^^;
You may offer some advices to these tanks instead of asking for advice for you as you are already very experienced.

[LunaFaye]

That's why I tho you were not attacking the tank's target, it was not what trying to seem cool, please understand. ^^;
You may offer some advices to these tanks instead of asking for advice for you as you are already very experienced.

It don't matter what target someone attacks. Sure people mark stuff, but if you're playing blm (ARR content) or SMN or even brd, that's a multi target class.

With that mentioned, blm now is a very strong single target class, however the only time I've seen them pull hate, is if the tank pulls, flash/overpower and goes afk. I've seen tanks mark something as 1,2, 3 and then attack 4 themselves, but not because they wanna hit every single target to make sure they have hate on it, no because they can't read their own signs lol.

3 Years ago we stopped marking shit, and every time I see it nowadays in duty finder it's gonna be ignored. If the tank is doing his job, granted nobody attacks something before he/she even pulls, then there should be no issues with hate what so ever. If you are still one of those tanks that marks and then blame the dps for not attacking your precious nr.1, please re roll and stop with your advice.

[Nicobo]

It don't matter what target someone attacks. Sure people mark stuff, but if you're playing blm (ARR content) or SMN or even brd, that's a multi target class.
With that mentioned, blm now is a very strong single target class, however the only time I've seen them pull hate, is if the tank pulls, flash/overpower and goes afk. I've seen tanks mark something as 1,2, 3 and then attack 4 themselves, but not because they wanna hit every single target to make sure they have hate on it, no because they can't read their own signs lol.
3 Years ago we stopped marking shit, and every time I see it nowadays in duty finder it's gonna be ignored. If the tank is doing his job, granted nobody attacks something before he/she even pulls, then there should be no issues with hate what so ever. If you are still one of those tanks that marks and then blame the dps for not attacking your precious nr.1, please re roll and stop with your advice.

That's why I said those tanks need advice but not OP. ^^;

But, if you read OP carefully again, the situation was not what you mentioned a lazy tank.
Op said the tank did everything, even no mentioned shield oath etc but in this case i suppose it was up, and the NIN also helped with this. Moreover, the healer was stand on their side.
So can you give some advise to OP as he wishes?

[Lidel417]

Any tank above 220 ilv worth their salt should not be losing aggro to you even without QS. I have every tank at 60 at 230 ilv+ and the only time I have to pay attention to threat is when I have a geared/skilled SMN doing 3-4k on pulls. Boss wise only my WAR can easily keep up with MNK/BLM dps in deliverance after my opener. I can see DRK/PLD losing aggro much easier on single targets if they sit in their dps stance.

TLDR: Your tanks are the equivalent to the dps I get in 230+ gear only doing 400 dps.

[Rongway]

If there are not multiple targets for you to tab around, then

If you are using Quelling Strikes at a point where it covers your heavier attacks
and the tank is geared
and you're still pulling the thing off the tank
then the tank is doing something terribly wrong.

If the tank leaves or the party kicks you, rejoice in not having to spend the rest of the run figuring out how to do your job without doing your job.

Assuming all the things above are true, there's not much you can do besides evaluate what the tank is doing wrong and then tell him how to correct it. Any other adjustments you make fall under the category of bandaiding the problem by not doing your job.

[Kitfox]

Do you single target and focus only on one enemy on large pulls? If not, then don't worry about it. Tanks are just being bad/lazy.

[Marianno]

If the is big pull then I will start with f2. If songle taget then I will start with f1. Its gotten to the point to where I don't even bother with f3 start anymore. I think you both have a point. I used to always think its me. I still do to some degree. I'm a fan of going all out but I want to at least be able to enjoy the dungeon. Its now only about getting into the dungeon on my BLM instead playing healer/tank.

[LalafellDown]

I think you just have bad tanks. Played with some really high DPS people especially during the 3.3 Anima grind. Its non stop AOE's and quick aggro loss to BLM, but I still maintained control. Maintaining aggro is no problem.