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    lokee's Avatar
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    Edge Geraldine
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50

    Auto demolition of estate or private room

    Think it's not right that your estate or private room goes into auto-demolition at 45 days sometimes ppl have to leave the game for awhile because of real life which happened to be my case. I had to stop playing for awhile which ended up being 7 months because of things far more important and to come back and see I lost everything from my estate and I can't even reclaim it. So my problem is that if you take a break for more then a month you get penalized for it and lose lots of items gather over time and untold amounts of gil. I find that unfair and not cool one bit. There needs to be a better way. If the housing area is to small and in that much demand then make the housing areas larger or add new areas for housing instead or stripping people of theirs and their things inside and telling them oh well you weren't playing so we are taking your stuff you worked for.
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    King Canadane
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    Your private room in a FC house isn't demolished.
    House's are to make room for people that are actively playing.
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    Gokuhan Kai
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    Siren
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    I completely understand that RL comes first, but you were gone for more than half a year. At that point it's likely you'd never come back. Exactly how long do you expect the game to hold your spot? Just let your house sit empty forever? I do believe they send an email warning you that demolition is about to happen as well.
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    Olivia Jeannet
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    Well look at it this way. Now you get to go through the excitement of checking the wards daily and the excitement that gets felt when a lot finally opens up! Honestly though if I was away that long I wouldn't feel bad one bit. Well, I take that back. If my lot got bought up by someone who just plopped a house on it and left it completely void of any other decoration and locked, I would feel bad.
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    I think the fact that you lose everything if you don't log in shortly after demolition is unnecessarily punitive. There is no reason the housing npc cannot hold onto your furniture and or your gil indefinitely.

    Unfortunately a very vocal portion of the FF playerbase seems to call for others to be punished every time they do something they dislike, while most others rarely consider things until they are directly affected. I suspect a combination of these factors is why we've seen such a harsh system implemented with little protest. Sadly, a lot of us don't care what happens to other people unless it affects us too.

    Your private room in the FC house is only safe as long as the rest of the FC is active and using the house. The same goes for a room in a house you share, it's safe only as long as the owner stays active.
    Tenants are in a horrible position due to reclamation with very little security. I hope the apartments they are introducing aren't subject to the same rules.

    I do understand housing is in short supply but punishing players who take a break by removing their gil and belongings from the game as well as reclaiming their house is hardly fair. The shortage is not the player's fault.

    @ Olivia I've seen so many houses like this; reclamation doesn't stop some people sitting on properties they barely use.
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    Last edited by Solarra; 07-12-2016 at 06:29 PM.

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    India Carter
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    It's only unfair when you keep your subs active and lose your house. Come September I'm working away from home for 8 weeks with no way of logging on, I'll lose my house but I'll get over it, in like 2 seconds, why ? because it's not a real house.
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    I think the fact that you lose everything if you don't log in shortly after demolition is unnecessarily punitive. There is no reason the housing npc cannot hold onto your furniture and or your gil indefinitely.
    It's probably because housing was supposed to be a gil sink (something we really do need as there is so much money coming into the game and very few places that actually remove it), but since they added the 80% compensation on having a house demolished, it's considerably less of a gil sink. The 35 day window to get your money (and items) is, I believe, a way to still try and get rid of the other 80% of the money from the economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxipep View Post
    It's only unfair when you keep your subs active and lose your house. Come September I'm working away from home for 8 weeks with no way of logging on, I'll lose my house but I'll get over it, in like 2 seconds, why ? because it's not a real house.
    You can run the Windows version on a USB stick (I do/have if I log in at my parents house for example), so you literally need to just plug it into any Windows PC with an Internet connection once every 44 days and walk inside the house. If you play on a console I appreciate that's a bit bulkier to have to carry around, but still doable (or just buy the base game on PC as it's so cheap all the time and link it to your account/USB as mentioned above, you don't even need HW expansion for housing).
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    You can run the Windows version on a USB stick (I do/have if I log in at my parents house for example), so you literally need to just plug it into any Windows PC with an Internet connection once every 44 days and walk inside the house. If you play on a console I appreciate that's a bit bulkier to have to carry around, but still doable (or just buy the base game on PC as it's so cheap all the time and link it to your account/USB as mentioned above, you don't even need HW expansion for housing).
    "Just buy the game a second time" - When people are suggesting THIS as a workaround, it's a sure sign that the system is terribly flawed. Active subscriptions should not lose their house. I've taken a year-long break from this game in the past and would be crushed if I'd invested in a house and returned to find all of that time and effort destroyed. I don't understand why people will defend crappy bandage systems rather than pushing harder for SE to fix the actual problem that is their base housing design. If we all united around that, I am certain they would fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    But the way they set up housing, they can not meet the demand.
    Despite not liking the idea of the system, it was really they only way they could come up with to help remedy the system since, according to them, they can't just keep expanding the wards due to limitations.
    Things like this just crack me up. How incompetent can they be that MMOs with far fewer resources can design housing systems with zero supply issues? xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    "Just buy the game a second time" - When people are suggesting THIS as a workaround
    I'm not... if you've bought a licence for PC, you can install it on as many PCs as you want (including a USB flash drive which was what I suggested). The same licensing applies for PS3, PS4 and Mac. If you've bought a licence you can install play on any number of those as long as you login with the same account details (PlayStation will also require logging in to the PS Network with the same ID as well).

    The buy it again on PC part was just for the PS people who didn't want to carry a console with them (or don't have the option of using someone elses) as it's bulkier than a USB drive. It's not a requirement, it's just an option.
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    Last edited by worldofneil; 07-22-2016 at 01:11 AM.

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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I've taken a year-long break from this game in the past and would be crushed if I'd invested in a house and returned to find all of that time and effort destroyed. I don't understand why people will defend crappy bandage systems rather than pushing harder for SE to fix the actual problem that is their base housing design. If we all united around that, I am certain they would fix it.
    Well I do see lot of people saying that 45 days it not long enough, but I don't think you will find many people that will agree with you about 1 year break. In a perfect system that would be fine you could do what ever you want but it not. As for paying sub why would someone want to pay for a game every month for a year and then not play it?
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