People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.
My actual thinking :
I was excited to have info for that that compaign. Days , weeks, months go away , still not news.. this start dont interest me , more since i saw too much pple having already all since months .
Prefer spend my money on other thing now...
Aren't we second rate gamers in their eyes? Just look at how they treat the promotion here as a botch job where they try to slap things together and don't really care about it. Soon I will loose interested in the itesm all together and might spend my money on some other game instead.I suppose we'll never know since companies rarely admit to their mistakes and if they do it's laced with honeyed words for the sake of PR. As a collector I really want the items to add to my collection - but I fear I'll be forced to miss out on them unless the other EU promotions are more easily accessible. Splitting it into three parts is just such an utterly baffling thing to do. Neither NA or Japanese players had to endure that. I just hope this issue is acknowledged in the next Live Letter because if it isn't then that will simply give the impression that EU players are a low priority.
I was going to reply to Riusvell, but yeah you got it before I could post: maybe PF won't be used but it won't stop people to make profit.
The average player can be smarter than you ever think and the fact that the US player essentially outsmarted Amazon by exploiting a mistake in their system, just shows the extent of what someone would go for obtaining what they want.
Nobody outsmarted Amazon. They know their system perfectly well and have been using it for many years on dozens if not hundreds of promotions just like this. Amazon knew perfectly well that there would be orders that got cancelled. It happens with every such promotion they do. They accept that as a standard part of their business model. The point of the whole thing was to get people to their site and buying things and it accomplished that. I expect Amazon is probably quite happy with the sales boost it gave them. They couldn't care less if along with that there were also a few extraneous codes sent out.
Last edited by Niwashi; 08-06-2016 at 05:33 AM.
I agree with Niwashi. Amazon probably did not care that some people used their system like that. Those that did would not have bought at the store anyway so no true loss for them. I am not sure if this was such a big deal for SE either. I believe that they payed a fixed price for this (otherwise this could be quite expensive)and in the end the reason for doing such campaigns is to create more players so the question is, did they even get some new players out of this?
I mean the Japanese players and people in general are only humans too and since you only needed those points, maybe they also had people selling them for high prices, or maybe someone got these points as a present from someone else and did not have to pay anything for the items either. Just because we did not read about such cases does not mean that they did not happen.So there will be always people that will use such a campaign to earn money from it. The problem with this campaign is, that its a limited amount of items that have the code..thus making it more valuable to sell and might leave other people that truly want those items without one. (Even if someone got their amazon code for free or sold their codes, other people could still just buy something from amazon to get theirs, so in the end others did not really have a disadvantage)
I'm not sure about that statement, because they cancelled their purchase didn't they? I mean I don't know how amazon works to be very honest (so i might be wrong here, please correct me), but if the purpose was to buy things over their site how would it work if these people actually deleted their purchase after getting their codes? I mean this is (probably) one of the main issues why we EU got essentially "screwed" when it comes to the promotion, and it worked "perfectly"?Nobody outsmarted Amazon. They know their system perfectly well and have been using it for many years on dozens if not hundreds of promotions just like this. Amazon knew perfectly well that there would be orders that got cancelled. It happens with every such promotion they do. They accept that as a standard part of their business model. The point of the whole thing was to get people to their site and buying things and it accomplished that(?). I expect Amazon is probably quite happy with the sales boost it gave them. They couldn't care less if along with that there were also a few extraneous codes sent out.
I'm just saying because, if this worked "perfectly", then it means that they purposedly did all this to ruin us. I'm probably exagerating and I HOPE that this was simply a mistake on their decision (they seem to be doing that a lot lately though...), but if this fiasco was all thought up, this would be really, REALLY bad.
But this would all be fixed if we had a response already...
Oh yeah, no doubt the third will be the worst, but the second is still going to be bad. Those that found copies of the first are going to know this time around just how lucky they were. If they want to exploit it they'll swipe as many of the second they can. Then other people will get desperate because they don't want to miss out on one and then not be able to get the mount.
A lot of people here have said they're going to wait and see what the other promotions will be while also saying they don't have much hope. So I imagine there's also a handful of people who are trying to fulfill this promotion because they can't see any other options.. Hence how this is going to feed into the desperation that will line the pockets of those looking for profit.
Amazon promos have always worked this way - it's nothing new. They expect a certain percentage of cancellations once codes have gone out, but they still get a good chunk of additional sales and traffic through the site. I remember way back buying into the Champions online hype and pre ordering from Amazon - I cancelled my pre order after they sent the beta code out and it turned out to be rubbish.
Potentially the ffxiv community did this too much, but it's unlikely. I expect the decision for Europe may have been based on getting as much money in for the codes as possible by doing deals country by country. The EU marketing team makes its own decisions - they weren't obligated to try and do a deal with Amazon just because the US did, even though that would have been better for fans.
Personaly the thing that I dislike the most is the silent treatment. When will the other EU regions get their events? This year? Next year? Never?
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