AST Anima stat allocation

[Miyha]

Oh man, a stat thread. ._.

I'm not sure why people are saying SS is a no-go when some of the linked threads have evidence to the contrary?

Anyway. Here's what I'm thinking of doing: Det/SS. The five points I have left will go into crit or something. Crit is extremely RNG-based, and unless you're stacking it, you're not going to get a significant return out of it. (You should not stack crit as an AST. Some suggest it is useful in Noct, but not nearly the same as a SCH and you will be in Diurnal more often than not. Not to say it's useless though: I use it as secondary melds on my gear since you do get considerable SS from your gear's base stats.) For piety, AST has the best MP management in the game at this point, so this is useless. Accuracy, unless you're melding it and it is required by your raid group, is also pretty iffy. (You will also likely be the main healer alongside a SCH in most serious raid scenarios anyhow.)

Det directly boosts how hard your heals hit. This is the primary stat I stack, both in melds and when looking at base stats. I have somewhere around 780-790 det, and I am able to mostly solo heal many parts of Savage raids while our SCH pushes DPS. I have also out-healed my share if WHMs. SS not only affects cast timers (AST is the fastest healer in the game in Diurnal, so exploit that), but also has some effect on DoT/HoT potency; a huge amount of the healing you do will be dependent on your HoTs.

Ultimately it comes down to personal preference. Det is basically indispensable. If you don't like SS, Crit will give you a higher chance to proc mega heals (crit Essential Dignity ftw). If your raid really requires it (which it SHOULD NOT unless it's a world/server first group), accuracy is the best DPS stat in the game and healers hurt hard for it. Piety is just... kind of a waste no matter how you look at it.

[Taika]

You should not stack crit as an AST. Some suggest it is useful in Noct, but not nearly the same as a SCH and you will be in Diurnal more often than not.

Isn't crit really good for Diurnal AST as well because so much of the healing comes from regens and each regen tick can hit?

I don't play AST, but I've been thinking and talking about this with my healing partner who is AST and working on his relic. Seems like most information out there is controversial and I haven't been able to find the value of DET anywhere.

[Miyha]

Isn't crit really good for Diurnal AST as well because so much of the healing comes from regens and each regen tick can hit?

I don't play AST, but I've been thinking and talking about this with my healing partner who is AST and working on his relic. Seems like most information out there is controversial and I haven't been able to find the value of DET anywhere.

Det's pretty well known to be the primary stat of WHMs and ASTs. Comparing my healing power with my 225 AST friend, it's a pretty remarkable difference.

Crit is useful in that respect, yes. But as I said, it's still rng. You would have to sacrifice your Det, a 100% reliable boost to your healing (and a significant one at that), for crit to really make a difference, and even then I'd question if it can hold up to the constant boost det will give you. SS is also a guaranteed decrease to casting timers and a guaranteed increase to your HoT ticks. Like I said though, it may come down to preference. Det to me seems like a must; crit vs spell speed is a controversy still today, and both have their positives and negatives. If you want a slightly higher crit chance, go crit. If you want to be faster and have some extra potency on top of it, go SS. As a det/ss (with det/crit melds) AST healing A8S, I find that stat configuration pretty effective.

[Taika]

Det's pretty well known to be the primary stat of WHMs and ASTs. Comparing my healing power with my 225 AST friend, it's a pretty remarkable difference.

You're talking about constant DET boost and it being well known, but do you have actual numbers for the stat? Many sources I've read lately (such as this thread) say it scales pretty badly for healers since Heavensward.

[Miyha]

You're talking about constant DET boost and it being well known, but do you have actual numbers for the stat? Many sources I've read lately (such as this thread) say it scales pretty badly for healers since Heavensward.

I do have some sources, but they're from Reddit and I don't feel like looking them up right now. ;; I can take some numbers though myself if you'd be interested. To give an idea, I healed between 400-600 more HP than my friend on straight heals and about 200 (or something like that) more on HoT ticks. I don't have his det stat though to compare with mine. Can ask and spam some heals on each other later tonight.

[Taika]

I do have some sources, but they're from Reddit and I don't feel like looking them up right now. ;; I can take some numbers though myself if you'd be interested. To give an idea, I healed between 400-600 more HP than my friend on straight heals and about 200 (or something like that) more on HoT ticks. I don't have his det stat though to compare with mine. Can ask and spam some heals on each other later tonight.

Please link to those sources when you have some time! I swear I've gone through every single Reddit stat thread I've been able to find and haven't found anything reliable, since Dervy hasn't done healer testing (or at least published results) and it doesn't seem like he will.

I don't do savage, nidhogg and the likes, so I'm very happy loading up on spell speed. It's pretty awesome how fast gravity can be cast outside of Lightspeed, and cures are almost instant. Also my dots are more powerful. I don't know where you got this idea of spell speed being useless >_>

Based on this post the spellspeed formula is floor(New GCD) = 2.5 - (((Current Spell Speed - 334) / 26.5) * 0.01).

The effect of spellspeed seems to be really minimal, for example based on that formula 1000 points in spellspeed would have your GCD at 2.24 (or 2.25 depending on how it's rounded up in game). That's 0.25 seconds (1/4 second) less than full cooldown, and only 0.15 seconds (1/6+ second) less than I have with having actively avoided any spellspeed gear. That is nowhere near instant (even with the 5% buff from Diurnal) and I claim you can't really even tell a difference if your cast / recast (I think there's a difference between cast and recast but I'm not sure?) is 0.25 seconds shorter than it would otherwise be and that it won't change your casting behaviour in any way (you can't start evading stuff 0.25 seconds earlier - unless you maybe have some kind of super eSports player reflexes).

[Bebekurenai]

Formulas

That can't be right. I'm talking about noct and Benefic 2 (default CD 2.5s). Without all the SS I'd have to wait 2 seconds to start moving around, with all the SS load I have I can do that after just one. That seems pretty close to instant for me. And no, no arrow or fairy or trait proc. Or maybe I'm just so lag free that everything casts so smooth? I've compared to my alt and there is definetly a difference, so yeah, I'll stay with SS >_> Also I'm curious, does you mean SE nerfed SS? Because before everyone was nuts about SS, BLMs, WHMs, all wanted to load up and be the fastest, now it's useless?