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    Cash shop ADS mount

    I wouldn't class myself as a pvp type of person, but I've been taking part in pvp content, and usually having a bit of fun doing it since its release.
    Of course the biggest draw for me wasn't the exhilaration of battle and stomping people. (It might sound silly, but I tend to feel bad when I have to kill somebody, especially if the team is losing, thus i play healer!) The draw was unique glamour and mounts, which i assume is the case for most people.

    The problem i'm having is twofold and perhaps subjective. I'm unable most days of the week in actually joining frontlines content, specifically since "Shatter" has been released, regardless of whether i queue with roulette or no. Second, in my personal experience the win rate for Twin Adders has been absolutely atrocious. An example would be that i'd been trying desperately to get the Field Commanders set from "Seize" several times a day throughout its entire content life-cycle, and to check my achievements to see that i'd only ever won 25 times is really disheartening.

    One might say that i'm just bad at pvp and letting my team down, but i'd disagree! I take pride in my ability as a healer in both pvp and pve content, and i always put my all into every game. I'd managed to get the cute airship mount from the "Feast" relatively quickly! But when I compare that experience alongside twin adders in frontlines, it's a worlds difference. Of course variables such as content objective and luck of player skill levels are also always at play.

    My point is, I don't think i'll live to see myself get the regular ADS mount, let alone the white one from shatter, so SE can you at least let me pay you for one? All i want to do is bounce around on a future ball, even if may be mud green looking.

    ------Edit: To make clear, i'm not asking for these specific achievement rewards to be purchasable but an alternative version/reskin able to be purchasable or obtained through other means. A la Bennu/zu mount, parade-chocobo/white-fat chocobo.
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    Last edited by Roukiz; 07-12-2016 at 05:39 AM.

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    The solution to this would be for the GC restrictions on frontlines alliances to be removed. Frontlines desperately needs this to happen to alleviate queue times for some factions as well. It would solve a lot of problems in giving everyone faster queues and making it much fairer for PvP achievements to be attainable without having to switch GC. I really don't understand why the devs continue to refuse to do this. I get there are lore reasons but this is one case where the gameplay really really needs to take priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I don't feel like supporting you to get mount others had to do plenty of PvP for. You simply don't deserve one and throwing money at your monitor shouldn't change that.
    DOWNVOTE.

    (and nope, I do not own ADS mount so I wouldn't call myself biased, I only have Twin Adder Warhorse)
    I'm inclined to agree, but I want to make a suggestion to the OP regardless.

    The Mogmender quests in the Mist have a similar mount to the Drones. Not as tron-inspired, but it is similar enough

    The only other option I can suggest (albeit reluctantly) is...switching GCs (Specifically to Flames on Aether) and for the coat, see if reddit is having events for Seize (both of these run under the assumption that Sargantanas is on Aether). That's all I can suggest for someone with limited time, or the inability to participate during peak hours

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The solution to this would be for the GC restrictions on frontlines alliances to be removed. Frontlines desperately needs this to happen to alleviate queue times for some factions as well. It would solve a lot of problems in giving everyone faster queues and making it much fairer for PvP achievements to be attainable without having to switch GC. I really don't understand why the devs continue to refuse to do this. I get there are lore reasons but this is one case where the gameplay really really needs to take priority.
    Considering that this thread exists, I think that people don't have that much faith in the devs to make such a fix in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I'm inclined to agree, but I want to make a suggestion to the OP regardless.

    The Mogmender quests in the Mist have a similar mount to the Drones. Not as tron-inspired, but it is similar enough

    The only other option I can suggest (albeit reluctantly) is...switching GCs (Specifically to Flames on Aether) and for the coat, see if reddit is having events for Seize (both of these run under the assumption that Sargantanas is on Aether). That's all I can suggest for someone with limited time, or the inability to participate during peak hours



    Considering that this thread exists, I think that people don't have that much faith in the devs to make such a fix in the first place.
    I know people here tried to get seal going on sunday, but it hasn't seemed to work as of yet, for the data center I mean, which sucks I still need 14 wins for the coat, Shame this could of all been avoided if SE allowed it to count for field of glory like they should of but -shrug-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The solution to this would be for the GC restrictions on frontlines alliances to be removed. Frontlines desperately needs this to happen to alleviate queue times for some factions as well. It would solve a lot of problems in giving everyone faster queues and making it much fairer for PvP achievements to be attainable without having to switch GC. I really don't understand why the devs continue to refuse to do this. I get there are lore reasons but this is one case where the gameplay really really needs to take priority.
    I've heard this for years, but I don't understand how this would effect queues. If there aren't enough people queuing what difference would removing the GCs do. Would you mind explaining it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I've heard this for years, but I don't understand how this would effect queues. If there aren't enough people queuing what difference would removing the GCs do. Would you mind explaining it?
    First off, say for example the number of PvP players in say...The Twin Adders have 36, the Immortal Flames have 8 an the Maelstrom have 28. In this case a 72 match is impossible becuase while there are 72 players, they are "distributed" evenly, leaving only a 24 player match possible

    Were the GC restrictions be abolished then the above example would be able to get into a match easily because their faction would no longer matter and thus a 72 man match is available.

    A more extreme example would be 1 in the Adders, 100 in Maelstrom and 30 in the Flames, a match would not be possible period because one of the three is servilely underpopulated, which no matches would happen at all.

    In either case were GC restrictions were abolished then most games would see 72 man matches with around that many people far more frequently
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I've heard this for years, but I don't understand how this would effect queues. If there aren't enough people queuing what difference would removing the GCs do. Would you mind explaining it?
    as with anything with restrictions and alliances, often there will be more people on one side as opposed to the other.

    a que for pvp is 72 players, thats 24 players per faction. if there is 24 people queing in the flames but only 12 people queing in the adders and 34 people queing in the maelstrom, that que wont pop because those extra 12 people in the maelstrom need to find an entirely different que.


    if there was no GC restrictions, the que would pop because those 12 exrta maelstrom people could join up with the 12 people in the adders. so in essence, its like that
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    I don't feel like supporting you to get mount others had to do plenty of PvP for. You simply don't deserve one and throwing money at your monitor shouldn't change that.
    DOWNVOTE.

    (and nope, I do not own ADS mount so I wouldn't call myself biased, I only have Twin Adder Warhorse)
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    One of the reasons it pops - at all.

    You want them to make that into cash shop junk? Surely you jest.

    If you want anything in an MMO, you need to put time into it (mainly). This isn't a new concept.
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    I agree, I do think it would be rather sad for the people who have successfully put the time in, in order to get these mounts, and it's true that they are one of the major incentive in doing these types of content. So I can completely understand.
    And Alberel brought up a great point about the underlying problem, which i do hope is addressed soon! I just find myself having personally put so much time into this, but to no avail.

    My initial thought about the cash shop ADS alternative was along the same lines of how SE makes available reskinned versions cash-bound through things such as irl collaborative events, friend-codes and collector editions, sometimes straight up cash-shop! But i think, other than the parade-chocobo none have been achievement rewards so far, so i can see how it would be uncouth!
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    Last edited by Roukiz; 07-12-2016 at 02:00 AM.

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