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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
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    perhaps you mistunderstood my intent, i was not saying PVP takes no skill, because it does. but the skill you need is mostly non existant when you que alone. you are paired upwith 23 other random people, sure you can be good and spam your macros and such, but you will not win if those other 23 people do not put in effort. and as such, PVP is a waiting game of being lucky enough to get likeminded players who actually do put in effort, and if not, you take a loss and reque again untill u get lucky enough to find more players.


    Shatter ques are not terribly long depending on the time of day you decide to que and obviously varies from center to center, regardless it can definantly reach up to 3 hours and often does for anyone that decides to even wait such a long time.
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    Last edited by LeeraSorlan; 07-12-2016 at 11:30 AM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    perhaps you mistunderstood my intent, i was not saying PVP takes no skill, because it does. but the skill you need is mostly non existant when you que alone...
    Honestly, it's a couple of other factors that make landing first place (winning) sometimes be beyond your skill. Having done my 150 wins from sealrock and 50 from slaughter, making calls alone won't be enough to "carry" the team if they are not willing to execute the calls in the first place. Other factors (at least from my perspective of seal rock) is the spawn locations of the tomelithes (especially near the end when you're clutching on points), but most importantly the actions of the other two GCs. You'd be hard pressed to be able to stake any claims if the other two are out for your blood (which is very often the case, esp if you're north spawn)
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    Ethan Vayne
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    I'd like an ADS, I'm at about 50/200 for the original ADS, and barely scraped anything on the new one. But having GC restriction at the same time as having the result under the mercy of RNG... just bite me if you think that's effort.
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    I'd rather they just keep it locked to achievement only. Regardless of whether people just used the winning gc to gather up wins for the mount and then abandon pvp all together or not, I like that there is a reward for playing pvp and I'd like it to stay that way even if that means less people can grab it. I think it'd be sad to see the pvp mounts be degraded to cash shop fodder.
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    Lace Valeria
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    As someone who requested the ADS mount even be a thing since 2.1, I want it however I can get it. Don't care if I have to pay or have to win in PvP. I want it BAD, and I'd still PvP anyways.

    Now, I agree with easing up on the requirements for the old mount. I was at 82/200 before I switched from Flames to Adders, and 20 wins later, I'm still at 82/100 despite the Achievement text saying "Lead and 3 of the GCs to victory". Switching resets your win counter (you keep previous progress, but effectively start at 0 again). This needs to change.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Now, I agree with easing up on the requirements for the old mount. I was at 82/200 before I switched from Flames to Adders, and 20 wins later, I'm still at 82/100 despite the Achievement text saying "Lead and 3 of the GCs to victory". Switching resets your win counter (you keep previous progress, but effectively start at 0 again). This needs to change.
    For what it's worth, the new white ball (aerodynamics system) only needs 100 wins and actually adds your total from all GCs. I got my first 40 wins with Flames and the other 60 with Adders. So the new mount is probably more accessible to a person who still has a ways to go on the older one.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    For what it's worth, the new white ball (aerodynamics system) only needs 100 wins and actually adds your total from all GCs. I got my first 40 wins with Flames and the other 60 with Adders. So the new mount is probably more accessible to a person who still has a ways to go on the older one.
    True, I'm currently 54/100 toward the new one, but until I catch up to my old progress, it won't count for both.
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Why cash shop while my queue is fine? Even without GC Restrictions the queue still fast to 72 man.

    What need to fixed is the 200 wins achievement. Mine both Maelstrom and Flame is each 100 wins yet no ADS received but I got field commander set when Maelstrom is 67 while flame is 33.
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    Last edited by Eul; 07-12-2016 at 07:34 AM.

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    This thread doesn't have difference with "I want A4S mount on cash shop because nobody run A4S anymore and I hate hardcore raid"
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Seraph
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I'm a cash shop customer and even I'm not thrilled with this idea. I do agree with the statement of the problem though. They should make the achievement easier and remove the GC restriction from frontlines. Don't remove the incentive for people to play the content though.
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