Thread: 3.4 Healer Rebalancing Thread

i have an idea for a change for Surecast. okay, it's originally an BLM skill, but all healers can crossclass it and this idea will more cater to the healers xD

now Surecast is
"Next spell is cast without interruption"
Duration: 10 Seconds
Additional Effect (BLM only): 15% chance Surecast will have no recast time.

i want to change it into:
"Next spell is cast without interruption and the range (of the next spell) is increased by 8y."
Duration: 10 Seconds
Additional Effect (BLM only): 15% chance Surecast will have no recast time.

Beside a change to AST that makes it possible to change stances in combat I can't currently see much rebalancing they could do for healers that would be of any real use. I don't even expect this to happen until 4.0 if this ever happens but even if this happen I can't see a lot of WHM and SCH not readying the pitchforks while howling that this would be too OP... Truthfully this is the one thing I still can't come to accept since I started playing AST at release... -_-:

I want sch to be officially oriented dps. And yeah, a little ast boost but SE should do it very carefully because ast can become broken at anytime soon...

Originally Posted by Lastelli

I honestly think WHM and SCH are perfect as they are now. AST is the mess we all know, but it's impossible to fix it by tweaking it a little bit, it really needs some love in the next expansion so I doubt the devs are gonna do anything about that at all...

Astrologian is not the mess. The mess is Scholar having a permanent, MP free HoT with the fairy, who can cast targeted heals and AoE buffs off the Scholar's global cool down. As long as the fairy exists in this manner, no other healer job will ever compare to a Scholar.

Originally Posted by Kitfox

Isn't the biggest wrench in healer balance the Fairy? High single target HoT that isn't affected by Cleric Stance (+ pet abilities). Diurnal AST seems to do pretty well compared to WHM, and while they buffed Noct AST shields to be stronger than SCH, not counting crits, Noct has nothing on SCH's Fairy. Neither WHM nor AST can heal while in Cleric Stance and Noct AST has no access to HoTs outside of their bubble.

Maybe I'm missing something as I don't play healers, but to me it seems like AST and WHM are pretty well balanced, while SCH is broken.

This is it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by Pomelo

Ast just needs some sort of fairy/totem whatever...a natural satellite? That takes the shape of sun/moon, and just is a temporary fairy, it spins around you or something, casting only single target heals...at the end it eclipses and casts the aspected helios of the OPPOSITE sect (but with less potency)

I would love this so much

The idea of an AST satellite pet even temporary would make him even more strong

Let's not forget one thing about the fairy being a strong HoT in the team
It also jump from player to player depending of the situation
Which make it far more stronger than regen or aspected benefic

Yeah but we cannot do anything about it. Nerfing the fairy would kill the sch. And it's only "op" when off healing because you can dps and heal at the same time, but when it comes of main healing ( what a sch should never do), it's not op anymore. Also, yes sch is is not replacable in endgame but it's a bit like for wars who fit the off tank role the best. What if Ast could just compete for the main healing role ?

Originally Posted by Llynd

Yeah but we cannot do anything about it. Nerfing the fairy would kill the sch. And it's only "op" when off healing because you can dps and heal at the same time, but when it comes of main healing ( what a sch should never do), it's not op anymore. Also, yes sch is is not replacable in endgame but it's a bit like for wars who fit the off tank role the best. What if Ast could just compete for the main healing role ?

Yoship already stated in his last 3.3 interview he wants AST to be able to sit in the off-healer seat instead of only main healer, hence the Noct buffs. A8S is more viable with WHM/AST than before having more than enough mitigation like CU and better-than-Succor shields for the J-Kicks, Disable is up for all but one long needle. You can clear anything with DRK/PLD as well. But that isn't to say these combos are optimal, but it can be done.

Fairy already got a slight nerf in 3.0, along with overall DET scaling taking a hit. With 4.0, they could press the reset button again. I don't know if nerfing Embrace potency is the answer either because that hurts Scholar even more in out-of-raid, casual content without having a regen that is as competitive as the other healers. It won't kill Scholar but they would have to align or probably buff up other skills to make-up for fairy nerfs.

Maybe improving the AST card system? It is their icon afterall.

30 seconds to draw again seems a bit too long, Maybe 20 seconds? Or maybe the CD is reduce after you use the royal road or spread effect?

Then the royal road effect especially the 50% potency effect, it spread to nearby party member but the "nearby" part is too short from what i've seen like less than 10 yard, at least make it the same size as our helios range or something?

And lastly i wish SE give a way more obvious indicator/effect whenever i give the card to party, i always feel like my party didnt realized that he got the "buff", sometimes i got scold by party because of it, "AST where's your card? Use it etc etc" i did!!! Check your/other buff bar!!!

I wish the effect when you use the card is permanent at least until the effect is gone (like when you use defense buff, it give a green aura thingy? I want that green aura thing to stay appear like that for the whole 30 seconds)