I would like to see Classes treated as proper, separate "Jobs"

[Eloah]

I dont understand why they deemed smn/sch a failure, imean unless you consider a dps-healer and a support-dps that have similar skills a failure. But what do i know i just like scholar, XD.

[Zari]

I dont understand why they deemed smn/sch a failure, imean unless you consider a dps-healer and a support-dps that have similar skills a failure. But what do i know i just like scholar, XD.

It was more about balancing and other issues like attribute points coming off of the fact that they share a base class.

[MagiusNecros]

I dont understand why they deemed smn/sch a failure, imean unless you consider a dps-healer and a support-dps that have similar skills a failure. But what do i know i just like scholar, XD.

It's more SCH is a dynamic class that has lots of abilities from a healing and a damage dealing perspective. Whereas SMN is a complete joke. And many of their grievances comes from balancing content because of the Fairy. They basically created a monster and have no clue how to balance content around it.

If anything I'd consider SCH a success and SMN a failure.

No the class system even as it is restricts the designers. Classes are a relic that need to be torn from the game not expanded upon.

I think the dev team needs to play an actual game of DnD and understand the basis of a character's basic attributes and then take a look at classes and understand that tying a base class to a single weapon type and simple stat system for the sake of being simple is where everything went wrong.

If the creators are restricted by something they created themselves what does that say about them? And if these systems were created by staff from1.0 why didn't they keep those bums on staff and collaborate together to improve the existing system a long ass time ago?

[Eloah]

It was more about balancing and other issues like attribute points coming off of the fact that they share a base class.

Certain skill balances I get, but attribute points arent an issue really, since they dont do much. Honestly they are just a fake attempt at customization.

If anything I'd consider SCH a success and SMN a failure.

While Scholar might be more of a success than Summoner, Summoner is far from a failure. Does it have flaws yes, but the only reason it's deemed a "failure" by the player base is because everyone wanted a "traditional" Summoner, which doesn't exist. (Please no debate talk). By that same logic, if XIVs is a failure in design but a success in execution, than XIs was a success in design and a failure in execution.