How is there STILL not a confirmation before throwing newbs into Novice Network?

[MaeIsMean]

Seriously.... I have a mule alt, I log her in for 2 mins max at a time to grab things from FC bank to put onto her retainers. I never bothered to turn off her leaf, cuz seriously, 2 minutes once every two weeks or so... who would have thought. Today, I got invited and thrown into the Novice Network by someone who happened to be standing next to me when I logged in.

That REALLY needs to pop up a window explaining Novice Network and ASKING if the player actually wants to join it. I can't believe this wasn't an option at the beginning, or that it hasn't been changed yet. At the very least, in all the chat window spam that happens when you get put into the channel without your permission, you could include a way to remove yourself and how to avoid being added back in the future.

Seriously.... no one likes being forced into situations they know nothing about without so much as a "Hey, this is a really neat thing you might want to try because you're new, Do you want to give it a try?"

[MihaelB]

There's an idiot notorious on Lamia for inviting ANYONE into the novice network including bots. The same idiot spam invites for his FCs, go figure.

We do need a confirmation screen for novice network invitations.

[Ivae]

If it's such an annoyance, just take the two seconds it takes to type /nastatus off, and you'll never be added again. Problem solved.

As for actual new players, it's actually there to help them. If they don't want the help, they too, can turn it off. Or just uncheck it in the chatlog options, so you'll still be in it, but won't really notice it.

[Chiramu]

If it's such an annoyance, just take the two seconds it takes to type /nastatus off, and you'll never be added again. Problem solved.

As for actual new players, it's actually there to help them. If they don't want the help, they too, can turn it off. Or just uncheck it in the chatlog options, so you'll still be in it, but won't really notice it.

What if there is an actual newbie and they didn't want to join it? It should be a pop up, "Would you like to join the Novice Network?" instead of slapping you straight into a chat channel without you knowing about it.

[Ivae]

What if there is an actual newbie and they didn't want to join it? It should be a pop up, "Would you like to join the Novice Network?" instead of slapping you straight into a chat channel without you knowing about it.

I don't disagree. But now you have the problem of it popping up everytime a mentor runs past you. And a lot of us remember the days of friend requesting gil sellers, and the flood of posts about it needing fixing. I don't see the issue with just turning the NA status off, or unchecking it in the chatlog. A person competent enough to install the game should be able to google themselves to this work-around.

[Yurimi]

I don't disagree. But now you have the problem of it popping up everytime a mentor runs past you. And a lot of us remember the days of friend requesting gil sellers, and the flood of posts about it needing fixing. I don't see the issue with just turning the NA status off, or unchecking it in the chatlog. A person competent enough to install the game should be able to google themselves to this work-around.

To be fair the reason SE gave for not having a confirmation box was that if someone was new they may not know how to accept, if that is their expectation of a newbie I highly doubt the person would know how to /nastatus off and I actually had to help a newbie escape the horrors of a very inappropriate novice network chat because they were ready to quit (this was apperently their first MMO) and then proceeded to teach them how to use the blist function

edit: also the person upon learning what the sprout icon was wanted to keep it because they felt it was a good idea to leave an indicator as they play with controller for people to know they were the new one in group content.

[Reinha]

I actually had to help a newbie escape the horrors of a very inappropriate novice network chat because they were ready to quit (this was apperently their first MMO) and then proceeded to teach them how to use the blist function

You can remove inappropriate conversations by removing the people participating in them. It's forbidden in the rules to use language that makes people really uncomfortable.

[MaeIsMean]

If it's such an annoyance, just take the two seconds it takes to type /nastatus off, and you'll never be added again. Problem solved.

As for actual new players, it's actually there to help them. If they don't want the help, they too, can turn it off. Or just uncheck it in the chatlog options, so you'll still be in it, but won't really notice it.

If I'm a real noob who just started the game a few days before (my character that was invited is only level 20 on a single class), and I was suddenly thrown into a chat channel, flooded with bright green text, AND have said channel set as my default, I would have been completely flustered and confused about what the heck was happening. Especially because in all of that spam, there isn't a single message about how you can opt out, how you can avoid being added back in the future, or how to turn off the chat so you "won't really notice it." It was a little shocking to me, and I've been playing for a year!

I agree with everything Yurimi said. When you get invited, it should pop up an Active Help window and a confirmation window BEFORE you're added to a channel and having your default chat change to said channel. Honestly, with as many confirmation windows and check boxes that you get, even before level 20, any player should understand what is going on and be able to make their choice. Removing the choice just says that SE considers new players to be so stupid, they couldn't rationally make the "right" choice for their playstyle, so choice was simply removed.

[RyuSaarva]

or maybe you should just disable the mentor chat from all of your chat windows and if you don't know how to do it, you propably should be in the mentor chat.

[Gemma]

If it's such an annoyance, just take the two seconds it takes to type /nastatus off, and you'll never be added again. Problem solved.

Or you could just, you know ASK the player before blindly inviting them, "Hey would you like to join the Novice Network so if you have questions players can help you?".

I was on an alt on another server to visit a friend & instantly got slapped into the novice network without any sort of notification. When asked if I could be booted I proceeded to get yelled at by "mentors" as if I was flipping out when all I said was "boot me.". They also kept insisting I take na status off, which is dumb imo when said "mentors" could have just sent me a /tell to see if I wanted to join in the first place.

Anywho, it got to the point where no one would boot me and I couldn't turn the status off & it became this stupid deal that all could have been avoided had there actually been some communication instead of blind invites.

(btw you can't turn na status off if you're in a house, they wouldn't kick me cause it auto re-invites, which is also dumb. So I had to step outside & turn off my NA status because other people had ants in their pants & had to invite me w/o asking & then went on to throw insults at me when I couldn't turn status off instead of helping like a mentor should. Nice mentoring! -_-)