Golden Saucer Feedback & Ideas

[Beetle]

Gold Saucer feedback

So I spent a good day looking at everything within the Gold Saucer and here's all the feedback I have to give towards it and a bunch of ideas I think that would improve the Gold Saucer.

Chocobo Racing feedback

Server side Duty Finder

Option to race anywhere using Duty Finder que ins. This is only server side & doesn't effect tournaments.
On the Chocobo Covering Permission item display the merged stats from both of the parents before having to register the chocobo.

Racing Adjustments

If you reach first place your able to earn your reward and leave the race.
If your the past one that hasn't reached the finish line the race ends without everyone else waiting for you to reach the finish line.
Gifts always stay up during a race and don't spawn behind you anymore if you're going too fast.
Passing Finish line you get credit for your place. Going past another jockey while passing the finishing line doesn't push you ahead of the lead anymore.

Tournaments for Chocobo Racing

Bonus points for entering chocobo tournaments at required times of the day. Basically 20-30min windows every 2 hours that allow players to earn a higher score then normal times. This will cause players to group up at required times and to play against more groups of players rather then npcs.

Racing Rewards

Platinum Trophy + 100000 MGP + Choco Gift
Gold Trophy + 50000 MGP + Choco Gift
Silver Trophy + 25000 MGP + Choco Gift
Bronze Trophy + 12000 MGP + Choco Gift
Players between 5th & 10 place get 5000 MGP + Choco Gift
Players in 11th-last get 1k MGP
Choco Gift is a one time item to randomly obtain a Chocobo ability or Trait skill item.

Chocobo Abilities

Choco Gravity I Players ahead of you can't jump. Duration 2s
Choco Gravity II Players ahead of you can't jump. Duration 3s
Choco Gravity III Players ahead of you can't jump. Duration 4s
Choco Lift I Resist Gravity effect by 20%
Choco Lift II Resist Gravity effect by 40%
Choco Lift III Resist Gravity effect by 60%
Choco Lift IV Resist Gravity effect by 80%
Choco Lift V Resist Gravity effect by 100%
Choco Lift VI Resist & Reflects Gravity effect by 100%
Choco Dash IV Temporarily boosts speed without depleting stamina Duration 4s
Choco Ease IV Cures Heavy status while restoring stamina by 200
Choco Cure IV Restores 15% of total stamina.
Choco Reflect IV Repels any non area-of-effect enfeeblement back to its point of origin for 25s
Choco Steal IV Take an item from the satchel of the forerunning jockey with a 100% success rate.
Head Start II Begin the race at maximum speed while pushing jockeys with or without "Head Start" behind you. Jockeys with "Head Start II" will not be effected.
Increased Stamina IV Reduces stamina depletion during acceleration by 18%.
Heavy Resistance IV Resists & Reflects Heavy by 100%.
Level Head Passive IV Resists & Reflects Frenzied by 100%
Dressage IV Increases EXP earned in races by 40%.
Lucky Pot Increases MGP at the end of the race by 20%
Lucky Pot II Increases MGP at the end of the race by 30%
Lucky Pot III Increases MGP at the end of the race by 40%

Racing Item

Choco Gravity spikes
Creates Area of effect around the player. Anyone that enters it earns the effect of gravity for 10s.

Lord of Verminion feedback

Tournament lockout needs to be fixed

If you lose 3 times or cancel your que in with someone else this causes you to be locked out from all of Lord of Verminion tournaments, challenges, (RP) Real player matches, & tutorial until the tournament ends. Tournaments are roughly 4-7 days long. Your locked out until the tournament ends.
Gate Times

Add more gates that run every 15mins. 0:15. 0:30, 0:45: 1:00.

Ideas for Gates

Rolling Easter Egg that rolls around the Golden Saucer. (Egg icon on your map will be displayed when you register for the gate)
Freezgah! (Just like the Typhoon fate but you can't fall off or be bound. The floor will be ice so you will be able to slide around while Typhoon lays down AOEs, get hit once and you lose.)

Improve the Mini Games

The Moogle's Paw Have the balls move around & increase the MGP reward.
Crystal Tower Striker Have a option to double your mgp after each hit. Up to 5 hits.
Bonus score achievements towards DoL Mini Games & The Big Catch (FSH)

Add a fishing mini game that goes with the other 2 DoL mini games & Score Challenge+ Minion rewards.

Out on a Limb (Bot)
The Finer Miner (Min)
The Big Catch (Fsh)
Bonuses towards score achievement
Cactar Green- x1 = 100pts
Malboro Yellow- x2 = 200pts
Titan Red- x2.5 = 250pts
You Basically want to get Red Titan and get 5 hits in toget a score of 1250 to obtain the minion. Each DoL mini game gives out its own minion through an achievement.

Achievements Rewards for DoL Mini Games

Reach a Score of 500 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 10000 mgp
Reach a Score of 1000 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 20000 mgp
Reach a Score of 1250 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 30000mgp & Minion: Chair. (When summoned your character will sit on it.)
Reach a Score of 500 in The Finer Miner, Reward: 10000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1000 in The Finer Miner, Reward: 20000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1250 in The Finer Miner,Reward: 30000mgp & Minion: Camp Fire.
Reach a Score of 500 in The Big Catch, Reward: 10000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1000 in The Big Catch, Reward: 20000 mgp.
Reach a Score of 1250 in The Big Catch, Reward: 30000mgp & Minion: School of Fish (4-5 fish that swim around in a group. Like the music moogles minion).

Increase Jumpo Cactpot MGP reward

1mil MGP isn't that much anymore since everything in the golden saucer increased its mgp pay out. Increase it to 3mil.

New Mounts

Territorial Tiger (Tiger Enemy from MCH quest line. People will go crazy for it) 800000 MGP
Typhoon (Another Crazy flyable mount players will go crazy for.) 3mil MGP.

Triple Triad Feedback

New Rules

Rule: Flip
The player with the highest amount of card flips will win at the end of the match. More combos within your turns is key to winning a match.
Rule: No Judgement
Cards with Judgement Icon will not take effect.
Rule: Reverse Judgement
Cards with Judgement Icon will have no stat values once placed.
New Card Icon: Judgement
Your opponent's next card will have no numbers once this card is placed. All numbers are replaced with X. (any number and Aces are able to flip these cards. They don't have any stat value. You can only have one Judgement card in a deck.

New Triple Triad Rank Increase

Your allowed to use Judgement cards once you have 130+ cards.

Other Adjustments

Zidane card from Golden Pack will be slightly increased in drop rate to be on par with Warrior of Light Card drop rate.

New Cards

All the villains from Final Fantasy series using the Artwork from Dissidia just like with the heros of the Final Fantasy series.
Garlean (5 star) (Random drop from Crystal Deck)
The Emperor (5 star)
Cloud of Darkness (5 star) (Current Cloud of Darkness changed with Cerebus Card) Cloud of Darkness will be a random drop from either World of Darkness or NPC.
Golbez (5 star) (Random drop from Adamantite Deck)
Exdeath (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Kefka Palazzo (5 star) (Random drop from Crystal Deck)
Sephiroth (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Ultimecia (5 star)
Kuja (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Ject (5 star) (Random drop from Adamantite Deck)
Shadow Lord (5 star)
Gabranth (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
Bhunivelze (5 star)
Cerebus (4 star) (Earned from Triple Triad NPC's)
Varis zos Galvus (5 star) (Achievement for earning 200 cards)
Caduceus (3 star) (Random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 1)
ADS (3 star) (Random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 2)
Clockwork Bug (2 star) (Random drop found at the end of Binding Coil of Bahamut turn 4)
Twintania (4 star) (random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 5)
Rafflesia (3 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 1)
Melusine (4 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 2)
The Avatar (3 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 3)
Nael van Darnus (5 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 4)
Imdugud (2 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 1)
Kaliya (4 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 2)
Phoenix (5 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 3)
Goddess (4 Star) (Random drop from the Goddess Primal trial)
Demon (4 Star) (Random drop from the Demon Primal trial)
Void Ark 3 (3 star) (Random drop from Vork Ark 2)
Patch 3.4 Dungeon boss card (3 star)
Patch 3.4 Dungeon boss card (3 star)
Caitsith (1 star)
Moenbryda (3 star)
Move current tournament only cards to other NPC's & add in villain cards.

Vanity Weapons

SMN: Mimic Book 10000mgp
SCH: Japanese Fan 10000mgp
AST: Crystal Ball 10000mgp

Hairstyles

Metallic Highlights 80000mgp

Housing

Amon Painting (Currently already in the game in Sycrus Tower just before Amon fight)
Glass of Blood wine, (5 Uses, Increases MGP gain) costs: 1000 MGP. Bought from Haunted Square NPC.
Gravestone 30000 MGP Bought from Haunted Square NPC. (Unactive FC names members can be placed on the gravestone. Clicking on the gravestone will say "________" lies here.)
Bed of Spikes, 50000 MGP Bought from Haunted Square NPC. (Object already ingame within Haukke Manor)
Crimson Moon Painting (If you look at the Haunted house in FF7 you can see a painting with a moon and red sky)
Haunted Fence (Fence that goes around your lot. Makes your plot look like a graveyard.)
Haunted wall texture (Dungeon texture)
Haunted Grandfather Clock (Creepy Clock)
Platinum Trophy (1st Place in chocobo racing tournament)
Gold Trophy (2nd Place in chocobo racing tournament)
Silver Trophy (3rd Place in chocobo racing tournament)
Bronze Trophy (4th Place in chocobo racing tournament)

New Golden Saucer Games

Snow Boarding

Works the same way as Chocobo Racing on rails. Grinding on rails=Speed Boost Jumping off of ramps for gifts and etc= decreased movement speed to other players and speed boosts.

Cloud Bike mini game

The bike mini game gets its own road zone where he can slash people down with a bustersword. (Dev issues with the cloud bike, it moves too slow for a bike ingame to be used as a mount.) The bike will be able to move very fast in its own zone so its not game breaking. Probably flying speed but on the ground/road in the racing/escort zone.

Cloud Bike mini game challenge

There is roughly 10-15 challenge modes where you need to protect a car from enemies. Clearing them all earns you the wind-up cloud strife minion.

Music Tracks

"Supply & Demand" 50000 mgp (Market Ward song in 1.0)

Emotes

Godbert Flash 50000 mgp
(Removes the display of all your clothing but your underwear & you do a flex with sparkle effects. Clothing is displayed back on if your character moves.)

Mini game target bar Adjustments

The target you need to aim for cant be covered by the bar that goes up/down or left/right in the following mini games: Monster Toss/Out on a Limb/Crystal Tower Striker/The Finer Miner.
Cliffhanger II/Anyway the Wind blows II/Vase Off II/The Time of my Life II/Skinchange We can Believe In II

Basically harder versions of current Gates but give out twice as much MGP.
Cliffhanger II, Bombs have a wider blast radius.
Anyway the wind blows II, Typhoon can do twice as many blasts within 5 rounds.
Vase off II, Twice as many Guards and must do 4 vases instead of 2.
The Time of my Life II, One single race will only appear instead of every race doing its own emote.
Skinchange we can believe in II, Twice as many NPCs to choose from.

Haunted Square

Its own side zone like with the Chocobo Square that hosts a Retainer Bell, Inn Room and it has a Haunted House theme. This zone also hosts Mini Games for Snow Boarding & Cloud Bike.

New Achievements

WTFungah IV
"Successfully complete the GATE "Any Way the Wind Blows" or "Freezgah" 100 times. Reward: Wind-up Typhoon
Enemy at the Gate IV
Successfully complete 500 Gates Reward: Wind-up Magic Pot
Enemy at the Gate V
Successfully complete 1000 Gates
Burning Rubber
Successfully clear all 15 Cloud Bike challenges. Reward: Wind-Up Cloud Strife

Weekly Challenge Log

Win a (RP) or Tournament Lord of Verminion match, Reward: 5000 MGP

Improvements in the area design

Display Red Carpet behind NPC desks. (Looks really plain right now)
Swap out one or two of the balloon minions with another minion.
Use the other side of the golden saucer balloon tank as a fish tank.
Remove/move most of the Gate "Cactar" signs. (They look like they are placed on every wall)
Remove some of the gate lamp post cactar signs.
Remove the NPC's that are loaded under the floor.
Change the Lift Ride to a pipe that sucks you in and loads you to the Chocobo Square. (Works the same as Alexander 4 fight.)
Standing on platform infront of the pipe triggers the suck in. (Please add this, will make it more like the FF7 Gold Saucer.)
Remove Extra Mini game duplicates hosted around the Gold saucer & the Chocobo square.
Remove the npcs that are playing the mini games but players can't access them.
Remove the npc thats playing at the lord of verminion table that players can't access.
Move the Cliffhanger Gate NPC by the gift box area to the lower floor incase players fall off they can easily access the GATE without having to go back up the stairs.
The platform that goes around the Aethright you can /sit on now.
Patch the glitch where players are able to clip through the golden pillars around walls.

Fix the Map of the golden saucer where the Round Square is.
Part of the platforms didn't get erased when you guys overlapped it with the Mt. Corel image.

[Enkidoh]

Personally I think this would be better in the actual dedicated Gold Saucer forum as you're more likely to get the development team to notice it.

Vanity Weapons

SMN: Mimic Book 10000mgp
SCH: Japanese Fan 10000mgp
AST: Crystal Ball 10000mgp

The thing is though, the 'vanity' weapons are actually weapons used by enemies and are not just 'there for fun'. As enemy ACNs just use the same weapons players use, hence why there are no vanity ACN weapons. Having said that however, maybe a copy of Alphinaud and Aliasae's unique grimoires could be added (Alphinaud's for SMN and Aliasae's for SCH?).

Cloud Bike mini game

The bike mini game gets its own road zone where he can slash people down with a bustersword. (Dev issues with the cloud bike, it moves too slow for a bike ingame to be used as a mount.) The bike will be able to move very fast in its own zone so its not game breaking. Probably flying speed but on the ground/road in the racing/escort zone.
Cloud Bike mini game challenge

There is roughly 10-15 challenge modes where you need to protect a car from enemies. Clearing them all earns you the wind-up cloud strife minion.

As much as I loved G-Bike in FFVII's Gold Saucer.... this simply does not fit Eorzea at all. There are no roads, no motorcycles... Eorzea still uses wooden sailing ships for ocean travel after all. This simply would be too futuristic to add.

Music Tracks
"Dragon Song" 100000 mgp

This is already in the game - you get it by finishing the 3.3 storyline automatically.

"Supply & Demand" 50000 mgp (Market Ward song in 1.0)

Oh goddess, not that horrid elevator muzac! Actually I think Gold Saucer would be a good place to get the roll for that particular track. It just suits it. (Plus that track is used already in the game in a number of quest cutscenes).

Haunted Square

Its own side zone like with the Chocobo Square that hosts a Retainer Bell, Inn Room and it has a Haunted House theme.

I must admit, this would be a nice thing to have - a theme inn is definetely what's missing from it (and is of course straight from the original FFVII Gold Saucer too). This I definitely support!

Either way, everything else is more just either QoL adjustments that doesn't really need discussing, or personal issues with the design of the GS, which I don't really see SE changing I'm afraid. But that is just my own opinion.

[Beetle]

Personally I think this would be better in the actual dedicated Gold Saucer forum as you're more likely to get the development team to notice it.

(more coming)

Oh they have one? Didn't know that. Still what do you guys think of it all?
Also I made this before 3.3. Still need to clean up the details. (Had to change the Dragon Song & the 3.3 cards)

MCH Gun vanity weapon I don't think any mobs in the game used it.
Plus I wanted to add some others in there since they we're missing. SCH would kinda suit the Japanese fan cus it would have a open and close animation.

FF7 bike doesn't suit xiv I agree but if we were playing a video game arcade (Like a Bike one) and could drive around in this zone just made for the bike and mini game.
The bike mount wouldn't be the reward from it but the cloud strife minion would.

They could probably recreate this in the game no problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7soIdcfv6kw

[MikeWW]

1. Gold chocobo.
2. Teleport button pops up in corner of ui when a new event appears until it stops taking participants. Option to hide this ui element.
3. Buy rare triple triad cards outright as additional option. Instead of x% chance of getting card "y" from a pack that costs "z" mgp, card "y" could also be purchased for mgp amount of: 100/x*z, or with "a" percentage penalty: (100+a)/x*z.
4. More cosmetic, minion, and housing items in mgp store.
5. Ability to continuously play minigames without being kicked out of them after each completion.
6. Better weekly achievement mgp awards for minigames.
7. More control in choosing race chocobo color. My perfect stat chocobo looks like a slime monster.

[Beetle]

[Ceasaria]

I wonder why nobody talk about the investigation game we got for the special event Gold Saucer...
if you did it right, you saw clearly a message from SE which said we are testing their new GS game and wanted to have feedback (after the disaster and unrequested LoV).
I'am pretty sure we will have this for 3.4 or 3.5.

Otherwise, good tread.

[Eight]

I wish they had daily bonuses personally. I really enjoyed the special gold event and it would be cool if they had a daily MGP bonus (not 50% but maybe like 15%) for one of the Gold Saucer content each day. It would be cool if say Monday the bonus is for triple triad and Tueday chocobo racing and so on.