Are the relic/anima weapons even trying anymore?

[HaelseMikiro]

I'd actually recommend NOT putting accuracy on a healer relic. If a person already has accuracy melded, then it serves no real puropose other than re-melding all your gear.

This isn't true. With fully melding 240 (with VIT right side), you stand at 606 accuracy, no food. There's no reason to re meld. I personally don't mind waiting a couple months for a relic to be relevant if it means I can swap from my overmelded crafted accessories, as realistically in a midcore group, at that point I'm either on the second to last floor of the fight and close to clearing or the last floor itself, with the assumption that something like A6S doesn't happen again. A relic with accuracy melded still serves purpose to midcore raiders.

Kinda guessing that's what I said that you were replying to. What I meant was, that any healer who was raiding prior to the current relic step, was already melded for the accuracy that they needed. Of course you bring up the excellent point that if you put 120 accuracy on a relic now, that would allow you to upgrade from crafted accessories, not use accuracy food, or otherwise re-meld some gear out of accuracy.
But of course caster accuracy will go up, probably in the 650-660 range. A 275 relic will have 138 accuracy, so your 606 is now 624. I suppose this does at least give you options of only using an accuracy food, or a single pentamelded 15 Vit +36 accuracy ring to make it up.

I guess it comes down to personal preference. An accuracy relic is the more frugal choice, but locks you into using the same weapon for the entire tier of raiding, waiting months for new steps to be added, which could take some people months to accomplish.
A person without an accuracy relic will only hit 604 accuracy with full melds and Urchins. So they'll have to rely on crafted overmelds if they want 100% accuracy

[revonine]

Even... If Monk's looks a tad silly; it's really not that bad.

except the monk one.

that Monk relic hate xD

I love the design, but the sheathing and unsheathing absolutely nothing does bug me though.

[Morningstar1337]

I don't get why people call Anima relic. Yes, in practice anima is the 'relic' quest-line, but the weapons themselves are not relics, contextually or narrative...

Same reason they called Nidhogg's firey orbs "Sable Prices", the Zodiac Quest's items "Dungeon Atma" and calling the Spoken Races their XI counterparts (and vice-versa). They are terms already ingrained into the collective consciousness one way or another and thus they will be used for things that are mechanically similar even if they are contextually, narratively and/or actually different (In the case of Nidhogg's Orbs, which look like the orbs from his Scarlet Price attack but are referred to as the Sable price, despite that looking and acting different. That is a case of them looking and sounding similar)

[Aniya_Estlihn]

that Monk relic hate xD

I love the design, but the sheathing and unsheathing absolutely nothing does bug me though.

In my case it's less hate and more confusion, like what is it supposed to be? I've heard people say it's a can opener, but even that doesn't properly describe it... I've seen the relic up close and personal many a good few times, and it just looks... Strange. The only thing close to it design wise that I can recall would be the chainsaw-esque weapons from .Hack; even then it's s stretch to justify it as much a weapon. Screenshots make it look even worse than it is in person. However, I can admit that the one I thought I'd hate was Spurs of the Thorn Prince (NIN)... I've changed my mind on that, however.

Same reason they called Nidhogg's firey orbs "Sable Prices", the Zodiac Quest's items "Dungeon Atma" and calling the Spoken Races their XI counterparts (and vice-versa). They are terms already ingrained into the collective consciousness one way or another and thus they will be used for things that are mechanically similar even if they are contextually and actually ifferent (or even LOOK or Sound Similar, in the case of Nidhogg's Orbs, which look like the orbs from his Scarlet Price attack but are referred to as the Sable price, despite that looking and acting different)

That is oversimplification at it's finest, and is simply something I cannot stand behind. If it's called something in game, I see no reason to make up our own term or associate previously common terms, that's illogical and lacks reasoning. It may simply be a matter of preference, but I still find it strange that "mechanical similarities" are accepted as justification for being descriptively and factually wrong.

[RLofOBFL]

I like the 'lics.... Even the creepy bald man face DRG one. & I am always excited to see what they look like next. So meh.

[Eul]

I didn't get the i240 SCH relic but... why the feather (ink quill) is so big o_o

[Zojha]

It may simply be a matter of preference, but I still find it strange that "mechanical similarities" are accepted as justification for being descriptively and factually wrong.

I don't find it strange at all, considering that only very few of our so called dungeons are or have an actual dungeon within. Transfer of already known terms is something pretty common. Like, this isn't actually a forum. And it's not actually a thread. Those terms, too, exist solely because of transfer via similarities.

[Morningstar1337]

That is oversimplification at it's finest, and is simply something I cannot stand behind. If it's called something in game, I see no reason to make up our own term or associate previously common terms, that's illogical and lacks reasoning. It may simply be a matter of preference, but I still find it strange that "mechanical similarities" are accepted as justification for being descriptively and factually wrong.

I never said it was logical, I was just stating the likely reason why use the terms they use. It's more or less Laziness really as far as why these terms are used. You don't see people in Seal Rock or Coerthas call the Tomeliths "Tomeliths", no they are "Nodes". You don't see players call the Anima weapons, "Anima", no, they're "relics" (Though I think SE giving the original set the secondary name of Zodiac didn't really help in that regard). And I highly doubt people aren't claiming that Nidhogg is a Primal in spite of the fact that he isn;t made of aether (ebatable), never tempered anyone (also debatable, but evidence against that can be seen when he storm the Steps of Faith) or wasn't called anythng of the sort in the MSQ despite the precedent saying otherwise, nope, just an EX mode an a mount is enough to get him consiered a Primal.

Is it stupid? yes. Does it say more about the playerbase than it should? perhaps. I'm done ranting, lets just say I agree with you and leave it at that

[Lexia]

The looks of the relic don't bother me it just the process the go about doing it that I have gotten tired of and just making it a huge grind for something that not even really worth the time you have to put in to get it.

[Eloah]

Wow thismsure took off fast... can't tell if a few people are mocking me or not for asking the question, but such is the life of a forum.

From what I've seen they are all gorgeous. Sounds like OP has relic envy.

I have no envy at all, I could care less actually. I'm a casual, and since I am not raiding or doing extreme primals no real reason for me beside an end goal. And beside my anima is the Scholar one and it is ugly in my opinion. Why is the quill attached to the side, and not the cover?

Says waiting for a nerf like lol, asks if the relic/anima weapons are even trying anymore. Awwww, bless ya'.

I am waiting for the crafted item step to be nerfed since I don't wanna spend god knows how much for 1 anima. But since the other steps can be done simultaneously, guess what I've been doing, lol. Also I never asked if they were "even trying" I just asked if they felt overy designed or not to other players. Some people have responded saying they do feel overly designed at certain stages.

I didn't get the i240 SCH relic but... why the feather (ink quill) is so big o_o

I agree, what is up with the quill.