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    Gold Saucer Feedback & Ideas (Long Read)

    Gold Saucer feedback

    So I spent a good day looking at everything within the Gold Saucer and here's all the feedback I have to give towards it and a bunch of ideas I think that would improve the Gold Saucer.

    Chocobo Racing feedback

    Server side Duty Finder

    Option to race anywhere using Duty Finder que ins. This is only server side & doesn't effect tournaments.
    On the Chocobo Covering Permission item display the merged stats from both of the parents before having to register the chocobo.

    Racing Adjustments

    If you reach first place your able to earn your reward and leave the race.
    If your the past one that hasn't reached the finish line the race ends without everyone else waiting for you to reach the finish line.
    Gifts always stay up during a race and don't spawn behind you anymore if you're going too fast.
    Passing Finish line you get credit for your place. Going past another jockey while passing the finishing line doesn't push you ahead of the lead anymore.

    Tournaments for Chocobo Racing

    Bonus points for entering chocobo tournaments at required times of the day. Basically 20-30min windows every 2 hours that allow players to earn a higher score then normal times. This will cause players to group up at required times and to play against more groups of players rather then npcs.

    Racing Rewards

    Platinum Trophy + 100000 MGP + Choco Gift
    Gold Trophy + 50000 MGP + Choco Gift
    Silver Trophy + 25000 MGP + Choco Gift
    Bronze Trophy + 12000 MGP + Choco Gift
    Players between 5th & 10 place get 5000 MGP + Choco Gift
    Players in 11th-last get 1k MGP
    Choco Gift is a one time item to randomly obtain a Chocobo ability or Trait skill item.

    Chocobo Abilities

    Choco Gravity I Players ahead of you can't jump. Duration 2s
    Choco Gravity II Players ahead of you can't jump. Duration 3s
    Choco Gravity III Players ahead of you can't jump. Duration 4s
    Choco Lift I Resist Gravity effect by 20%
    Choco Lift II Resist Gravity effect by 40%
    Choco Lift III Resist Gravity effect by 60%
    Choco Lift IV Resist Gravity effect by 80%
    Choco Lift V Resist Gravity effect by 100%
    Choco Lift VI Resist & Reflects Gravity effect by 100%
    Choco Dash IV Temporarily boosts speed without depleting stamina Duration 4s
    Choco Ease IV Cures Heavy status while restoring stamina by 200
    Choco Cure IV Restores 15% of total stamina.
    Choco Reflect IV Repels any non area-of-effect enfeeblement back to its point of origin for 25s
    Choco Steal IV Take an item from the satchel of the forerunning jockey with a 100% success rate.
    Head Start II Begin the race at maximum speed while pushing jockeys with or without "Head Start" behind you. Jockeys with "Head Start II" will not be effected.
    Increased Stamina IV Reduces stamina depletion during acceleration by 18%.
    Heavy Resistance IV Resists & Reflects Heavy by 100%.
    Level Head Passive IV Resists & Reflects Frenzied by 100%
    Dressage IV Increases EXP earned in races by 40%.
    Lucky Pot Increases MGP at the end of the race by 20%
    Lucky Pot II Increases MGP at the end of the race by 30%
    Lucky Pot III Increases MGP at the end of the race by 40%

    Racing Item

    Choco Gravity spikes
    Creates Area of effect around the player. Anyone that enters it earns the effect of gravity for 10s.

    Lord of Verminion feedback

    Tournament lockout needs to be fixed

    If you lose 3 times or cancel your que in with someone else this causes you to be locked out from all of Lord of Verminion tournaments, challenges, (RP) Real player matches, & tutorial until the tournament ends. Tournaments are roughly 4-7 days long. Your locked out until the tournament ends.
    Gate Times

    Add more gates that run every 15mins. 0:15. 0:30, 0:45: 1:00.

    Ideas for Gates

    Rolling Easter Egg that rolls around the Golden Saucer. (Egg icon on your map will be displayed when you register for the gate)
    Freezgah! (Just like the Typhoon fate but you can't fall off or be bound. The floor will be ice so you will be able to slide around while Typhoon lays down AOEs, get hit once and you lose.)

    Improve the Mini Games

    The Moogle's Paw Have the balls move around & increase the MGP reward.
    Crystal Tower Striker Have a option to double your mgp after each hit. Up to 5 hits.
    Bonus score achievements towards DoL Mini Games & The Big Catch (FSH)

    Add a fishing mini game that goes with the other 2 DoL mini games & Score Challenge+ Minion rewards.

    Out on a Limb (Bot)
    The Finer Miner (Min)
    The Big Catch (Fsh)
    Bonuses towards score achievement
    Cactar Green- x1 = 100pts
    Malboro Yellow- x2 = 200pts
    Titan Red- x2.5 = 250pts
    You Basically want to get Red Titan and get 5 hits in toget a score of 1250 to obtain the minion. Each DoL mini game gives out its own minion through an achievement.

    Achievements Rewards for DoL Mini Games

    Reach a Score of 500 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 10000 mgp
    Reach a Score of 1000 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 20000 mgp
    Reach a Score of 1250 in Out on a Limb, Reward: 30000mgp & Minion: Chair. (When summoned your character will sit on it.)
    Reach a Score of 500 in The Finer Miner, Reward: 10000 mgp.
    Reach a Score of 1000 in The Finer Miner, Reward: 20000 mgp.
    Reach a Score of 1250 in The Finer Miner,Reward: 30000mgp & Minion: Camp Fire.
    Reach a Score of 500 in The Big Catch, Reward: 10000 mgp.
    Reach a Score of 1000 in The Big Catch, Reward: 20000 mgp.
    Reach a Score of 1250 in The Big Catch, Reward: 30000mgp & Minion: School of Fish (4-5 fish that swim around in a group. Like the music moogles minion).

    Increase Jumpo Cactpot MGP reward

    1mil MGP isn't that much anymore since everything in the golden saucer increased its mgp pay out. Increase it to 3mil.

    New Mounts

    Territorial Tiger (Tiger Enemy from MCH quest line. People will go crazy for it) 800000 MGP
    Typhoon (Another Crazy flyable mount players will go crazy for.) 3mil MGP.

    Triple Triad Feedback

    New Rules

    Rule: Flip
    The player with the highest amount of card flips will win at the end of the match. More combos within your turns is key to winning a match.
    Rule: No Judgement
    Cards with Judgement Icon will not take effect.
    Rule: Reverse Judgement
    Cards with Judgement Icon will have no stat values once placed.
    New Card Icon: Judgement
    Your opponent's next card will have no numbers once this card is placed. All numbers are replaced with X. (any number and Aces are able to flip these cards. They don't have any stat value. You can only have one Judgement card in a deck.

    New Triple Triad Rank Increase

    Your allowed to use Judgement cards once you have 130+ cards.

    Other Adjustments

    Zidane card from Golden Pack will be slightly increased in drop rate to be on par with Warrior of Light Card drop rate.

    New Cards

    All the villains from Final Fantasy series using the Artwork from Dissidia just like with the heros of the Final Fantasy series.
    Garlean (5 star) (Random drop from Crystal Deck)
    The Emperor (5 star)
    Cloud of Darkness (5 star) (Current Cloud of Darkness changed with Cerebus Card) Cloud of Darkness will be a random drop from either World of Darkness or NPC.
    Golbez (5 star) (Random drop from Adamantite Deck)
    Exdeath (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
    Kefka Palazzo (5 star) (Random drop from Crystal Deck)
    Sephiroth (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
    Ultimecia (5 star)
    Kuja (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
    Ject (5 star) (Random drop from Adamantite Deck)
    Shadow Lord (5 star)
    Gabranth (5 star) (New Tournament Reward)
    Bhunivelze (5 star)
    Cerebus (4 star) (Earned from Triple Triad NPC's)
    Varis zos Galvus (5 star) (Achievement for earning 200 cards)
    Caduceus (3 star) (Random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 1)
    ADS (3 star) (Random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 2)
    Clockwork Bug (2 star) (Random drop found at the end of Binding Coil of Bahamut turn 4)
    Twintania (4 star) (random drop found at the end of binding coil of bahamut turn 5)
    Rafflesia (3 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 1)
    Melusine (4 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 2)
    The Avatar (3 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 3)
    Nael van Darnus (5 star) (Random drop from Second coil of bahamut turn 4)
    Imdugud (2 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 1)
    Kaliya (4 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 2)
    Phoenix (5 star) (Random drop from Final coil of bahamut turn 3)
    Goddess (4 Star) (Random drop from the Goddess Primal trial)
    Demon (4 Star) (Random drop from the Demon Primal trial)
    Void Ark 3 (3 star) (Random drop from Vork Ark 2)
    Patch 3.4 Dungeon boss card (3 star)
    Patch 3.4 Dungeon boss card (3 star)
    Caitsith (1 star)
    Moenbryda (3 star)
    Move current tournament only cards to other NPC's & add in villain cards.

    Vanity Weapons

    SMN: Mimic Book 10000mgp
    SCH: Japanese Fan 10000mgp
    AST: Crystal Ball 10000mgp

    Hairstyles

    Metallic Highlights 80000mgp

    Housing

    Amon Painting (Currently already in the game in Sycrus Tower just before Amon fight)
    Glass of Blood wine, (5 Uses, Increases MGP gain) costs: 1000 MGP. Bought from Haunted Square NPC.
    Gravestone 30000 MGP Bought from Haunted Square NPC. (Unactive FC names members can be placed on the gravestone. Clicking on the gravestone will say "________" lies here.)
    Bed of Spikes, 50000 MGP Bought from Haunted Square NPC. (Object already ingame within Haukke Manor)
    Crimson Moon Painting (If you look at the Haunted house in FF7 you can see a painting with a moon and red sky)
    Haunted Fence (Fence that goes around your lot. Makes your plot look like a graveyard.)
    Haunted wall texture (Dungeon texture)
    Haunted Grandfather Clock (Creepy Clock)
    Platinum Trophy (1st Place in chocobo racing tournament)
    Gold Trophy (2nd Place in chocobo racing tournament)
    Silver Trophy (3rd Place in chocobo racing tournament)
    Bronze Trophy (4th Place in chocobo racing tournament)

    New Golden Saucer Games

    Snow Boarding

    Works the same way as Chocobo Racing on rails. Grinding on rails=Speed Boost Jumping off of ramps for gifts and etc= decreased movement speed to other players and speed boosts.

    Cloud Bike mini game

    The bike mini game gets its own road zone where he can slash people down with a bustersword. (Dev issues with the cloud bike, it moves too slow for a bike ingame to be used as a mount.) The bike will be able to move very fast in its own zone so its not game breaking. Probably flying speed but on the ground/road in the racing/escort zone.

    Cloud Bike mini game challenge

    There is roughly 10-15 challenge modes where you need to protect a car from enemies. Clearing them all earns you the wind-up cloud strife minion.

    Music Tracks

    "Supply & Demand" 50000 mgp (Market Ward song in 1.0)

    Emotes

    Godbert Flash 50000 mgp
    (Removes the display of all your clothing but your underwear & you do a flex with sparkle effects. Clothing is displayed back on if your character moves.)

    Mini game target bar Adjustments

    The target you need to aim for cant be covered by the bar that goes up/down or left/right in the following mini games: Monster Toss/Out on a Limb/Crystal Tower Striker/The Finer Miner.
    Cliffhanger II/Anyway the Wind blows II/Vase Off II/The Time of my Life II/Skinchange We can Believe In II

    Basically harder versions of current Gates but give out twice as much MGP.
    Cliffhanger II, Bombs have a wider blast radius.
    Anyway the wind blows II, Typhoon can do twice as many blasts within 5 rounds.
    Vase off II, Twice as many Guards and must do 4 vases instead of 2.
    The Time of my Life II, One single race will only appear instead of every race doing its own emote.
    Skinchange we can believe in II, Twice as many NPCs to choose from.

    Haunted Square

    Its own side zone like with the Chocobo Square that hosts a Retainer Bell, Inn Room and it has a Haunted House theme. This zone also hosts Mini Games for Snow Boarding & Cloud Bike.

    New Achievements

    WTFungah IV
    "Successfully complete the GATE "Any Way the Wind Blows" or "Freezgah" 100 times. Reward: Wind-up Typhoon
    Enemy at the Gate IV
    Successfully complete 500 Gates Reward: Wind-up Magic Pot
    Enemy at the Gate V
    Successfully complete 1000 Gates
    Burning Rubber
    Successfully clear all 15 Cloud Bike challenges. Reward: Wind-Up Cloud Strife

    Weekly Challenge Log

    Win a (RP) or Tournament Lord of Verminion match, Reward: 5000 MGP

    Improvements in the area design

    Display Red Carpet behind NPC desks. (Looks really plain right now)
    Swap out one or two of the balloon minions with another minion.
    Use the other side of the golden saucer balloon tank as a fish tank.
    Remove/move most of the Gate "Cactar" signs. (They look like they are placed on every wall)
    Remove some of the gate lamp post cactar signs.
    Remove the NPC's that are loaded under the floor.
    Change the Lift Ride to a pipe that sucks you in and loads you to the Chocobo Square. (Works the same as Alexander 4 fight.)
    Standing on platform infront of the pipe triggers the suck in. (Please add this, will make it more like the FF7 Gold Saucer.)
    Remove Extra Mini game duplicates hosted around the Gold saucer & the Chocobo square.
    Remove the npcs that are playing the mini games but players can't access them.
    Remove the npc thats playing at the lord of verminion table that players can't access.
    Move the Cliffhanger Gate NPC by the gift box area to the lower floor incase players fall off they can easily access the GATE without having to go back up the stairs.
    The platform that goes around the Aethright you can /sit on now.
    Patch the glitch where players are able to clip through the golden pillars around walls.

    Fix the Map of the golden saucer where the Round Square is.
    Part of the platforms didn't get erased when you guys overlapped it with the Mt. Corel image.
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    Just want to say I LOVE the haunted square idea. Easily my favorite zone in 7s gold saucer. maybe even throw in a gate here about ghost hunting or such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziegsy View Post
    Just want to say I LOVE the haunted square idea. Easily my favorite zone in 7s gold saucer. maybe even throw in a gate here about ghost hunting or such?
    Can't add ghosts or undead in this game thanks to the korea/china version.
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    I'm pretty content with it the way it is, yea I'd like to see some new things eventually. My only real gripe is that the cackpot board of previous winners & winning numbers never gets updated. I mean there's players names that won in 2015. If it's really been that long since someone won the mil then please make it so there is at least one person that wins the mil per week, even if it's only 1 server. I mean you sell over 2000 tickets just on my server every week, according to the ticket sales lady.
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    I'd like to throw in that they should just remove the weather effects from racing. From what I can tell, the nearly constant rain that happens, particularly with tracks like Sagolii, essentially makes Fair weather birds be at a significant handicap for most, if not all, of a given race. Even after their old nerf to the effects, the fact it's still a nearly constant handicap just makes getting Fair weather birds seem like you might as well give up, even if you happen to luck out with the other RNG stuff (like 20 star birds).
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    + Triple Triad Tournament Fixes and making tournament cards a participation award or obtainable in other (non-platinum pack) ways
    + Minimap colored walkway fixes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I'd like to throw in that they should just remove the weather effects from racing. From what I can tell, the nearly constant rain that happens, particularly with tracks like Sagolii, essentially makes Fair weather birds be at a significant handicap for most, if not all, of a given race. Even after their old nerf to the effects, the fact it's still a nearly constant handicap just makes getting Fair weather birds seem like you might as well give up, even if you happen to luck out with the other RNG stuff (like 20 star birds).
    Well first off they are gonna add more chocobo challenges and probably increasing the max rank. Weather effects are pretty much set on challenges. Random when its in a zone. Weather bonus/weakness for breeding is pretty bad. The last challenge does play a small part if your bird has a poor stat in rain weather.
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    oh yeah im for this! WE could even have a ghost haunted train and do wave battles on it! BUT i still love the old idea i had about making the MINI-adventures of the light! Play as any of the minions and go mini-dungeons! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Can't add ghosts or undead in this game thanks to the korea/china version.
    China had a problem with human bones not undead (this game already had zombies).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    If you lose 3 times or cancel your que in with someone else this causes you to be locked out from all of Lord of Verminion tournaments, challenges, (RP) Real player matches, & tutorial until the tournament ends. Tournaments are roughly 4-7 days long. Your locked out until the tournament ends.
    You only get locked out if you win trade 3 times, not if you lose 3 times. And 3 queue cancels is pretty generous. I think this restriction should remain as it is, it's plenty fair if you don't intend to win trade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Going past another jockey while passing the finishing line doesn't push you ahead of the lead anymore.
    When you go past the finish line, I'm pretty sure it locks you in to your position. People going past you after the finish line is just them arranging the order of winners, but if they move ahead of you it's because they actually crossed the finish line before you, but you might have had extra acceleration so you take longer to slow down.

    Not sure about the other suggestions, although I would like more rewards and more chocobo racing maps.
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