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    You know that delay that often occurs when you summon a retainer in a crowded area like Idlylshire or Limsa? That delay occurs because your request for your Retainer is just one among hundreds, just to obtain one retainer's worth of stored items. Multiply that by eight times the data (assuming you have eight retainers), and you might as well grab a book to read while you wait for your Retainers to load in. XD

    Just get in the habit of distributing your items among your retainers in a manner you can easily memorize, and you should rarely need to move items from retainer to retainer, or get frustrated summoning one retainer after another trying to find the one who has the item you're after. For example, if you're a glamour enthusiast, store all head, body, handpieces on Retainer A, and all body, legs, and weapons on Retainer B. You'll never need to transfer items between them, and you'll always know which retainer to go to for whatever item you're currently looking for. Hmm, I feel like a wooden sword today - where'd I put my Darklight Macuahuitl? On Retainer B, of course, along with my Zantetsuken, Thundercloud, etc.
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    This has been requested before and shot down, I believe. I can't seem to find it in search though.

    SE can't do this because of a technical limitation. There is a lot (Yoshida claims it's the most of any MMO) of data being saved to the server, per character, every 15 seconds. Summoning a single retainer is similar to summoning another set of player data (appearance, gear, inventory) and has to recall data upon summoning, save the data every 15 seconds it's there, and then save the data again when you dismiss it. If you think about that carefully, it adds up to an excessive amount of data being transferred around all at once. I'm sure SE would prefer reducing possible server crashes over how cumbersome, or bored, you feel the retainer menu is.
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    Change or riot
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    Quote Originally Posted by papichulo123 View Post
    Change or riot
    You better start preparing to riot then.
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    I like the idea but as someone who plays on an older PS3, summoning retainers gives me enough problems already with just 1 trying to load. I often freeze up and have to hard reset my system. I would never be able to use my retainers if they all came at once. I just want more of them without having to pay for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gehrtalert View Post
    I like the idea but as someone who plays on an older PS3, summoning retainers gives me enough problems already with just 1 trying to load. I often freeze up and have to hard reset my system. I would never be able to use my retainers if they all came at once. I just want more of them without having to pay for them.
    Odd, never had any problems with it on my PS3. Only issue is having to restart game after losing sound if been running a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    Odd, never had any problems with it on my PS3. Only issue is having to restart game after losing sound if been running a long time.
    I get the missing sound glitch sometimes too. I just figured the freezing problem is just because my PS3 is on the verge of dying. Also, whenever I load the game up to the main start menu, if I go Afk long enough and it starts to play the opening movie, the frame of the movie that's on when I try to start playing will be stuck on-screen.
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    So this might be an issue with something on the older systems(PS3) if it's a software limitation. I can't see this being an issue for loading data to the PC versions or the PS4, espically if SE sunk money into the hardware to support the game properly. Also, if you think that a few thousand queries against a database is a problem then you probably don't work in a Data Center that has the equipment to support this type of MMO.

    They could always just have all your retainers waiting in your room at the inn so it would load them as you load your room. I'm just looking for centralized management versus individual management through menus that I've done just clicked through hundreds if not thousands of times by now. It's a QoL thing nothing more.
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