Dragoon Poll (Should DRG have a Wyvern?)

[NarikoStar]

Say No to ridiculous polls that have no relavancy prior to 2.0.

lol, word.

[Dhalmel]

If dragoon gets a pet wyvern I hope it will look a little different and not a complete copy from XI. It would be a little funny if they just used the puk model.

[NarikoStar]

If dragoon gets a pet wyvern I hope it will look a little different and not a complete copy from XI. It would be a little funny if they just used the puk model.

Personally, I think it would be cool for it to be much bigger~ But :3 we'll see haha. (After seeing the drake mount proto-type in the live video I think it would be cool if DRG's could ride their pet. But either way~ don't matter.

[grandm]

If dragoon gets a pet wyvern I hope it will look a little different and not a complete copy from XI. It would be a little funny if they just used the puk model.

i have just found out, dragoon will be getting a pet wyvern but it will not have any moves or a abilities, they will not be nerfing dragoons DD powers. this will please every1 i think. and yes it will look very different to the one in FF11, this one will be invisible. but its ok the owner will know its there

[Reliquia]

You're absolutely right about that because they are indeed "Pet Classes". They're well balanced for the role of summoning pets, and controlling them. Dragoon on the other hand is not a pet class. You cannot deny that fact.

I deliberately haven't used the words "pet"/"pet class" because I felt that the way it was implemented in FFXI was more like a companionship/sidekick, and that's what I liked about it. You fought alongside it, not with or through it. That's how I would like it to be in this game as well but with a little more interaction.

What better way to give drg unique combat mechanics than having it this way? We already have the pure DD MNK, we already have the hybrid tank/dd War, We have the tank pld, we have the buff/debuff light DD Brd, the healing mage Whm, the DD mage Blm. So why not make Drg combat mechanics different than Mnk and future DDs by having a companion that you can combine attacks with? Just because you have a companion does not mean that your dmg output (character + wyvern) has to be lower than other DDs, SE is pretty good at nerfing jobs regardless of job details when they do too well. Guess what? Lnc is already showing just that.

Fang was used for an example. She has set jobs and exclusive abilities, similar to Dragoon. Does any of her weapons ring a bell? "Dragoon Lance" or her special ability "High Wind" which is basically a Hyper Jump. I'm surprised no one complained about her not having a pet.

Again, Fang is a character in a single player FF game, with emphasis on characters and story. Our playable characters in this game however are just gray matter that we mold, we mold them after preference, style and after what's available. You also seem to forget that you could be different classes with Fang, none of them being drg, you can view her more like a lancer if you want. Not to mention that FFXIII wasn't revolving around the classic Final Fantasy job system.

Fang might have had dragoon-like abilities, but she wasn't dragoon in the sense of the Final Fantasy dragoon identity. Which now has ID tags like the dragoon AF being the strongest visual one, dragoon abilities being the strongest play-style tag, the dragoon name for obvious purposes and after XI the wyvern has also become a drg trademark.

Again, that comparison is terrible.

[Vandark]

Having Dragoon as my Fav FFXI job and loving the Wyvern and all didn't mean squat when it came to facts about the job and the effects, having the wyvern caused DRG to be weaker then other melee classes. No one wants a half assed job around and the wyvern made Dragoon half assed to say the least sure it could solo well given the best possible gear so forth but in an end game aspect and pretty much most areas Dragoon was looked at with a blind eye and deemed useless to the majority. I mained as dragoon for quite a long time and only because I found the job personally enjoyable, unfortunately the fact that it was continuously disheartening being the job no one wants around I had to eventually give it up and become a Red mage or I would never get any gear. WAYVERN NO THANKS! Dragoon isn't supposed to be a weak Job, look at FF3 Drg is nuts and Kain is over kill in FF4, do they have Wyverns..???? OF COURSE THEY DON'T! Why? Because they don't need a stupid dragon to help them there awesome without it. FFXIV Drg with wyvern = pansy DRG With awesome power and no stupid dragon = OVER KILL! I repeat Wyvern THANKS FOR THE OFFER BUT I'LL HAVE TO PASS!

[Jamison]

If it helps, Yoshida-san did state that he imagined BST with more loyal pets this time around. What he said may even be interpreted as BST only having one pet from start to finish (whether or not it grows and changes forms remains to be seen). So, you might not need a DRG wyvern just to feel like you have a companion.

That brought to mind Final Fantasy Legend for the Gameboy... where there was a system with a beast class that transformed throughout the game. FFXIV could do something along those lines where the power of your pet changes as you get items to transform him into stronger forms.

[Velhart]

On Beastmaster, I imagine it will work like WoW's Hunter, where have certain pets for certain situations. Like maybe a crab will give party a defense boost, or a wolf an accuracy boost.

EDIT: Also, their idea of DRG being a crit focused DPS is "much" better than bringing the pet back, I imagine more Lancers would switch to another class than do the DRG/Wyvern setup if it costed their DPS.

[grandm]

this argument of a wyvern being a companion that the beastmaster can't suply, is a little rubbish, your chocobo is the faithful companion you are describing. your chocobo will have a much bigger role than just transport in the future. and whats more every1 can access it. its not just locked to one job

[Andrien]

Fang might have had dragoon-like abilities, but she wasn't dragoon in the sense of the Final Fantasy dragoon identity

Soooooooo if she had a wyvern she would be a drg right?

What you just said defeated your own argument. Thanks for proving my point in that giant post.