Dragoon Poll (Should DRG have a Wyvern?)

[Scherwiz]

Economically speaking, the Japanese don't have enough pull on these subjects because quite simply, the majority of the FFXIV users right now are non-Japanese. Let's see...Japanese Island Nation? Check.

Australia? Europe? Britain? North America? South America? Greece?

Check, Check, Check, Check, Check, and friggin' Check.

The only case where Japanese players would have "more" pull than non-Japanese is simply because of their culture and human tendency to place greater weight to native-speakers than non-native speakers.

I'm sure Yoichi Wada and Naoki Yoshida are not so stupid as to alienate such a large revenue source.

Please business man tell us more about demographics and how they work, the world is watching, and so is ... Greece?

[giottoV]

say no to wyverns. save ffxiv jobs.

[Aion]

I'd rather have dragon just like Freya's skill

[Scherwiz]

Say No to ridiculous polls that have no relavancy prior to 2.0.

[Reliquia]

Australia? Europe? Britain? North America? South America? Greece?

Check, Check, Check, Check, Check, and friggin' Check.

Greece, Britain and Europe? You realize that's like saying Tachikawa, Tokyo and Japan?

Just fyi aside from mostly GB and Scandinavia, maybe also Germany most European countries don't speak very well English, so these countries aren't well represented on these forums. The French and the Germans have their own sub-forum. I am going to remake your statement to mostly NA, many Europeans, some Australians and some South Americans.

And just so you know it for good and bad, each choice SE takes as a company is always conscious about what their japanese consumers opine. After all the Japanese market has always been loyal and successful for SE, and the highest density of players per square mile lies in Japan as well.

[Andrien]

I love DRG in all FF lore, with or without Wyverns, but if I had to choose I'd prefer to have a Wyvern ^_^ I think if Yoshi-P could swing it so that each player had the option as a DRG to either be a stronger solo DD or a bada$$ Pet Class then everyone would be happy...but I do have to say, if they implement a Wyvern and you're sooooooooo against it, then just continue playing as a LNC...I think having a Wyvern will not only set DRG apart from other DDs, but it will also fulfill the desire for a pet class in FFXIV...also, if they do implement a Wyvern, I hope it is slightly more customizable than they were in FFXI (at least different colorations, maybe based on the Wyverns elemental alignment)...either way, I'm truly excited to see DRG make the cut in the first line of true FF based jobs and I really look forward to seeing what Yoshi-P has in store for us -_^

I can tell you haven't been reading most of the posts in the thread. We can agree that DRG first and foremost is a Damage Dealing class in all Final Fantasy games, XI being the only one with a pet. However I wont consider it a pet class because it was just there for one purpose in XI, "Healing Breath". Pet system have a balance. In all mmos that I played you cant have a strong damage dealer with a strong pet, or a pet class with weak pets.

DRG can do all those amazing abilities on their own without compromise. (the way it should be in my opinion)


I mean seriously, this goes for everyone that wants a pet.. Is it because you just want it to have a pet? You wont feel like a DRG without it? Did you have a craving for it in FFXIII, for the playable character Fang? I bet you didn't.

[Reliquia]

I mean seriously, this goes for everyone that wants a pet.. Is it because you just want it to have a pet? You wont feel like a DRG without it? Did you have a craving for it in FFXIII, for the playable character Fang? I bet you didn't.

I love the companionship of my dog, and because I love the idea of companionship and all that follows (love, loyalty, interaction, difference, etc.) I enjoy simulating a similar idea in this game because I think that the idea was a positive experience in FFXI, the most important is the loyal and exclusive bond between the dragoon and it's companion. (Like I have said before with certain class adjustments and more customization). I ended up liking the concept of dragoon a lot more as a result, and it would make sense that a dragon expert could have benefit from a wyvern companion as well as dragon and dragon slaying abilities. I found the job to be a lot more unique and with the added benefit of a companion it became a favorite.

Beastmaster is not the same, it's more like a one night stand.
Summoner is not the same either, it's more like calling your buddies because you got beaten by someone.

And did you just compare Fang to an MMO character? The characters from FFXIII are set characters, your interaction is more like a participation to the story and it's settings. You are supposed to identify with the characters and watch their personalities evolve (in some cases not). In an MMO you have the freedom to become whatever you want to be inside the settings that the game offers.

[Anonymoose]

If it helps, Yoshida-san did state that he imagined BST with more loyal pets this time around. What he said may even be interpreted as BST only having one pet from start to finish (whether or not it grows and changes forms remains to be seen). So, you might not need a DRG wyvern just to feel like you have a companion.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I love DRG in all FF lore, with or without Wyverns, but if I had to choose I'd prefer to have a Wyvern ^_^ I think if Yoshi-P could swing it so that each player had the option as a DRG to either be a stronger solo DD or a bada$$ Pet Class then everyone would be happy...but I do have to say, if they implement a Wyvern and you're sooooooooo against it, then just continue playing as a LNC...I think having a Wyvern will not only set DRG apart from other DDs, but it will also fulfill the desire for a pet class in FFXIV...also, if they do implement a Wyvern, I hope it is slightly more customizable than they were in FFXI (at least different colorations, maybe based on the Wyverns elemental alignment)...either way, I'm truly excited to see DRG make the cut in the first line of true FF based jobs and I really look forward to seeing what Yoshi-P has in store for us -_^

Dragoon should not be the job to fofill the need for a pet class -.- it should be Beastmaster or (if they wanted to be brave) another form of Puppetmaster

Dragoon has always been a DD class, hell even in FFXI I would not of called it a pet class, you had virtually no control over what it did, other then using spells/WS to make it do things. A real pet class would have at least some control over their pet.

[Andrien]

I love the companionship of my dog, and because I love the idea of companionship and all that follows (love, loyalty, interaction, difference, etc.) I enjoy simulating a similar idea in this game because I think that the idea was a positive experience in FFXI, the most important is the loyal and exclusive bond between the dragoon and it's companion. (Like I have said before with certain class adjustments and more customization). I ended up liking the concept of dragoon a lot more as a result, and it would make sense that a dragon expert could have benefit from a wyvern companion as well as dragon and dragon slaying abilities. I found the job to be a lot more unique and with the added benefit of a companion it became a favorite.

I can't tell you what Dragoon should be like, but I can tell you how 99% of them play like in other Final Fantasy games.

Beastmaster is not the same, it's more like a one night stand.
Summoner is not the same either, it's more like calling your buddies because you got beaten by someone.

You're absolutely right about that because they are indeed "Pet Classes". They're well balanced for the role of summoning pets, and controlling them. Dragoon on the other hand is not a pet class. You cannot deny that fact.

And did you just compare Fang to an MMO character?

Fang was used for an example. She has set jobs and exclusive abilities, similar to Dragoon. Does any of her weapons ring a bell? "Dragoon Lance" or her special ability "High Wind" which is basically a Hyper Jump. I'm surprised no one complained about her not having a pet.