Dragoon Poll (Should DRG have a Wyvern?)

[Nabiri]

Probably going to word this poorly, but here goes..
For those arguing that Dragoons should not befriend wyverns/dragons and not fight together with them because Ishgard hates them (and so say all dragoons should hate them), but then say it's acceptable for them to be befriended for the use as mounts.. That's some pretty backwards logic.

Either hate them or don't.
Either befriend them or don't. It wouldn't make sense to have one exception but not allow another.
Either stick to what you believe in, or don't. Don't pick and choose and say "well this would be acceptable," when it goes directly against what you're standing for.

I'm sorry I had to point it out. The hypocrisy bothered me.
*puts up flame-resistant shield and awaits trolling*


I still think it can be worked into the lore to work together with them in battle. If Dragoons can/are willing to tame a wyvern/dragon to be a mount, they can certainly team up with them in battle.

[Lienn]

My friend and I were discussing something about Dragoon, Dragons, and the perceived Playable-Draconian race that Yoshi-P hinted at previously.

Let's say they release even a half-dragon race, how are they going to reconcile that with any kind of Dragoon unless it takes up a cavalry job completely unrelated to any discussion of dragons? If I were a Draconian, I'd have no use for a dragon companion, and I'd not want to be a dragon killer either.

Gria the name. Unfortunately not a race from Eorzea. Grias are from Ivalice set of races.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Gria the name. Unfortunately not a race from Eorzea. Grias are from Ivalice set of races.

Ewww no! D:

Werent Bangaas like Dragon/Lizard people in FFT?

[Felis]

No, you must have misread something. You are mistaken. Pets for the sake of having pets should stay in houses.
I would like DRG to have a pet wyvern again because it was enjoyable fighting alongside it in XI. I can't see DRG being any other way.

Then made it a mount/buddy and not a pet.
This is FF XIV, not FF XI
Of course you can not have both dragon and chocobo then

[Lienn]

Ewww no! D:

Werent Bangaas like Dragon/Lizard people in FFT?

Indeed bangaas are lizardmen...and one of my fav races from FF series too ^^ ...but the half dragon ppl are gria, not bangaa =P

[Volsung]

Probably going to word this poorly, but here goes..
For those arguing that Dragoons should not befriend wyverns/dragons and not fight together with them because Ishgard hates them (and so say all dragoons should hate them), but then say it's acceptable for them to be befriended for the use as mounts.. That's some pretty backwards logic. .

The people opting for mount are saying that if lore is changed like you want, that is as far as we're willing to compromise, with mount or buddy.

[Nabiri]

The people opting for mount are saying that if lore is changed like you want, that is as far as we're willing to compromise, with mount or buddy.

I didn't see anyone saying "if the lore changed". Many seem to want it to stay exactly how it is, no compromise. If you were, then I must have missed that somehow.
If the lore was changed then there would be no reason for us not to have an optional wyvern to fight with us as long as SE could balance it. Which I believe they could at least try doing, before saying no to it.

[Zanfire]

Dont even use lore as an excuse at this point, all that is going out the window with jobs alone. They can change anything at any time, or add w/e they want.

[Volsung]

Dont even use lore as an excuse at this point, all that is going out the window with jobs alone. They can change anything at any time, or add w/e they want.

Then how about:

3/4 years of 2 hour pet
9 total years before survivability is addressed in the form of an ability post 75
9 years before players can use a JA to force a breath, also post 75
No haubergeon, yet ninja can wear

puppetmaster:
WTF is SE doing at many points. High throwing skill, cant throw animator, hope staff, just now revising automaton AI after YEARS of people complaining. 2 years for blm/whm hats. useless attachments that were already adjusted once.

How about poor implementation, holding players back, and just generally SE not knowing wtf they're doing ? xD

I say this as a drg with 9 years under his belt and as a puppetmaster. Can they work? yea. But I'd rather not take the risk on drg this time. I'd rather play awesome.

[Reliquia]

I'm gonna use these two arguments against each other

Then how about:

3/4 years of 2 hour pet
9 total years before survivability is addressed in the form of an ability post 75
9 years before players can use a JA to force a breath, also post 75
No haubergeon, yet ninja can wear

puppetmaster:
WTF is SE doing at many points. High throwing skill, cant throw animator, hope staff, just now revising automaton AI after YEARS of people complaining. 2 years for blm/whm hats. useless attachments that were already adjusted once.

How about poor implementation, holding players back, and just generally SE not knowing wtf they're doing ? xD

I say this as a drg with 9 years under his belt and as a puppetmaster. Can they work? yea. But I'd rather not take the risk on drg this time. I'd rather play awesome.

This is FF XIV, not FF XI

Just because FFXI came up with a different concept for dragoon which can be compatible in FFXIV does not suddenly make this FFXI. Just because there was made dragoon related mistakes in FFXI does not mean that the mistakes have to follow with the concept, that was a mistake in execution (hopefully they have learned something by now). Which is different.

Your concerns aren't unreasonable, but your assumptions are.