Dragoon Poll (Should DRG have a Wyvern?)

[Zezlar]

I would rather have Dragoon without the Wyvern. I loved FFXIs version but I want the classic Dragoon back.

[SilvertearRen]

I would rather have Dragoon without the Wyvern. I loved FFXIs version but I want the classic Dragoon back.

Right, we don't need a repeat of FFXI's class/jobs here, I'd rather see a fresh take on the second MMO of Final Fantasy.

And that means getting to play a new version of Dragoon that doesn't feel like a copy-paste of XI's Dragoon.

[Chardrizard]

I want to see a Dragoon that does this, not the pet/wyvern.

[Volsung]

I simply want to be a Kain Highwind, Freya Crescent, and FFTA drg baby.

Thats it, no pet, just pure awesomeness and dragon themed abilities.

[SilvertearRen]

I simply want to be a Kain Highwind, Freya Crescent, and FFTA drg baby.

Thats it, no pet, just pure awesomeness and dragon themed abilities.

Those who do not want Wyverns as a class pet for Dragoon, should plug this into their sig, if they have room.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Those who do not want Wyverns as a class pet for Dragoon, should plug this into their sig, if they have room.

hahaha funny to be in a signature thou.

[Coldbrand]

Hell no. Jump should be good enough instill envy in others, and beyond that give us freya's shit and maybe breath attacks ala FFTA.

[Anonymoose]

After putting some thought into it, I think my opinion lies with the anti-pet crowd. Allow me to outline a few points here; I want this to come off less like I'm choosing a side or arguing a point and more like I'm stating, "I think it's in the best interest of FFXIV and the franchise tradition."

I've tried to arrange my points in a hierarchy, where one leads into the other, so that when read as a whole, it becomes clear why pet-less makes more sense.

Quote this everywhere you feel necessary.

• Semantics: A dragoon is, by definition, a battle specialist capable of making war either as infantry or cavalry. This alone does not imply any connotations to dragons at all; simply the ability to fight with a good reach; the term dragoon should only be associated with weapons and battle choices. The power of the Dragoon lies within his spear, not his pet.
• Localization: Dragoon is our name for the job, not the true name of the job. Ryuukishi simply means Dragon Knight; as in the noun Knight (armored solider who serves lord or land in war) modified by the adjective Dragon (of or relating to Dragons. <Herpaderp>) Combine the east and west traditions and you arrive at: An armored solider, skilled in infantry and cavalry, who is of or resembles a dragon. So far, even Ma Chao of Dynasty Warriors fame fits the bill just fine, and he fought solo.
  
  
  
  "Wiv Urn? That thing I smashed to get a meat patty?"
• PAUSE THREAD: Sidenote: DEAR GOD, PLEASE STOP ATTACKING THE MA CHAO THING. I know, it's the weakest piece of "evidence" here, but that's because I'm not being at all serious there. It was a joke pointing out that if that's all we asked of Dragoon, even Ma Chao qualifies, so let's move on to more pressing matters. I was not, at all, saying, "Man, Ma Chao makes a great Dragoon. Look at this guy!" UNPAUSE THREAD
• Tradition: Though not required by semantic standards, Final Fantasy has tied Dragon Knight to dragons many times in many forms. This was first introduced in Final Fantasy II, where Dragon Knight did indeed fight alongside a wyvern - but before quoting this as evidence, do realize this wyvern was big enough to ride and also acted as the "Cavalry" half of that whole "Dragoon" thing. Using that as evidence to recycle XI's mechanics in XIV is ... flimsy. At best. The rest of the series just has Dragoon maintaining the standard of a lance wielder who can jump really high (or maybe he was pole vaulting the entire time and we never noticed) and often befriends dragons.
• FFXI: Compared to the aforementioned, XI's dragoon was a rogue; a wannabe - An infantry-only dragonslayer (WTF?) who has a change of heart and hangs around with the least intimidating version of a namesake you could ever model your goofy purple armor after. That's like having a Chocobo Knight who spends his life hunting down chocobos until he realizes the error of his ways and begins fighting alongside a chicken. (THAT'S RIGHT, I WENT THERE.)
• Game Mechanic: If LNC gains a pet, he will have to become weaker as a balance. Getting weaker is only acceptable evolution if your goal is to become better at something else (such as healing, buffing, or tanking.) A dragon knight (again, an armored warrior who fights on land and mount; taking on the image and ferocity of a dragon) should never hold the goal of kicking less ass. Ever. Even for an adorable sidekick who does not enhance any of his aforementioned traditional characteristics or even act as his cavalry.
• Lore: Wrap up everything we have so far and Lancer should be evolving from a pole wielding infantryman to a heavily armored multi-faceted ass-kicking machine who looks like a godsdamn dragon. He could fight alone from the back of a chocobo and still fulfill every requirement. His raw power and passion should be so mighty as to impress the dragon-kind. His quests and missions should involve him getting close to, taking flights on, and kicking ass with dragon-kind (and never slaying them. Again, wtf?). The pet is unnecessary and counter-intuitive to the goal.

All in all, I think it's time for Final Fantasy Online's dragoon to learn to stand on his own two feet. The potential for a pet-less DRG is far higher than a pet-DRG, imho. If he jumps, if he masters the spear, if he looks like a dragon and fights like a dragon... he is dragon knight. He is dragoon.

[Alerion]

Personally, I don't think the wyvern should come back as a constant pet. Maybe as a cooldown ability for a maximum burst scenario.

Dragon themed abilities and weapon skills are where it's at. I'd like to see a buff ability that has a dragon's silhouette appear behind the Dragoon on use, things along those lines.