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    I am probably alone in this but.....

    I have zero motivation to craft the ironworks stuff because it seems so easy....does anyone else feel this way?

    I guess if we will get recipes that need it (eventually) I will be glad I have it but....it seems like such a let down and easy and idk I just guess I thought there would be more of a gate. They made the other stuff so the people could catch up so I guess I thought there would be more of a reward. I don't mind working for things but by and large this whole thing has left me more MEH than YAY!

    Color me disappointed, I guess I just wanted it to be challengingish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panderin View Post
    I guess if we will get recipes that need it (eventually)
    They'll be releasing patch 3.4 in about 3-3.5 months, which will add 4-star recipes. You'll likely need all this gear melded to reach the minimum requirements of those recipes.

    I mostly see the current patch as both a catch up patch, as well as one that allows crafters to prepare for 4-star, to make it possible to craft the new DoW/M gear on the first day of 3.4.
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    Last edited by Nezerius; 06-09-2016 at 03:44 AM.

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    Honestly, I think this may serve as a reboot to crafting. Rowena tokens basically made it impossible for newer crafts to get caught up because you had no way of getting around the weekly cap. I am a bit surprised how easy the better ilvl 195 set is to craft, which is why I think they'll change that in future patches, but 3.3 is simply trying to put everyone on a semi-even playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Honestly, I think this may serve as a reboot to crafting. Rowena tokens basically made it impossible for newer crafts to get caught up because you had no way of getting around the weekly cap. I am a bit surprised how easy the better ilvl 195 set is to craft, which is why I think they'll change that in future patches, but 3.3 is simply trying to put everyone on a semi-even playing field.
    If you crafted the crafting gear yourself, it took very little time at all to gear something out. You just couldn't be an omni crafter, which honestly I thought was fine.
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    The requirements to craft it are not too hard, but the items necessary to make it aren't so easy to get unless you just want to buy them from everyone else.

    Think about glass fiber. It's not so easy to come by and 1 piece is selling for about 300k on my server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    The requirements to craft it are not too hard, but the items necessary to make it aren't so easy to get unless you just want to buy them from everyone else.

    Think about glass fiber. It's not so easy to come by and 1 piece is selling for about 300k on my server.
    glass fiber is being rewarded as desynth items and aquapolis is dropping luminous fiber in small stacks fairly regularly. Maybe even more sources
    Moogles actually seem to be the worst way to get it atm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    glass fiber is being rewarded as desynth items and aquapolis is dropping luminous fiber in small stacks fairly regularly. Maybe even more sources
    Moogles actually seem to be the worst way to get it atm
    Which items are desynthing into it? I've heard Void Ark so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    The requirements to craft it are not too hard, but the items necessary to make it aren't so easy to get unless you just want to buy them from everyone else.
    They're hard right now but it hasn't been a week since the patch has happened. Trust me. Most crafters are going to see the insane profit that alchemy is making and switch specialists. This'll greatly reduce the prices in the next week. Those that don't are going to do the desynthing.

    Prices will come down fast. Especially as most hardcore crafters have already made a full set by now. And that's the problem. We shouldn't be able to make a full set the day or two after a patch. Yeah, 4 stars are coming out but that's in 3 to 4 months and you only need one set so that cuts things down to 1/8th the time it used to. =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
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    Especially as most hardcore crafters have already made a full set by now. And that's the problem. We shouldn't be able to make a full set the day or two after a patch. Yeah, 4 stars are coming out but that's in 3 to 4 months and you only need one set so that cuts things down to 1/8th the time it used to. =/
    THIS....THIS THIS THIS! Just said much better than I could ever have! That is why I have motivation issues, like what is the hurry, I can just fart around this patch and get everything all slow b/c i have MONTHS to get this gear made before it is viable in any real way. MEHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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    I didn't agree with this thread at first, but thinking about it and now that it has been out awhile, I'm pretty disappointed too.

    You worked hard to gear up one or two crafters a patch or two ago, and made real bank when midas came out on that sweet 220 gear. That was amazing, your hard work really paid off.

    Now...they have these ironworks sets, which only have 1 material that is even slightly difficult, the rest is super easy to buy or gather.

    And what is worse, it's not even worth making the set to sell, because each piece goes from 900k to 1.5 mil...which honestly, is a pathetic amount for what is supposed to be the best crafting gear in the game. You won't even make a profit if you were to buy the materials and craft it, because every weaver/goldsmith/whatever specialist can craft them. Hell, selling the crafter specific 170 gear for glamour enthusiasts would net you a bigger profit (if anyone would buy them which I doubt at this point).

    The only limitation to making IW gear is specialist lock, and that at least keeps the price reasonably high, but what will happen next patch when they go off of specialist? I can easily see people flooding the market with them and this gear set dropping to 500k a piece on populated servers like mine, or worse, and anyone with even a small to decent amount of gil will have a full geared crafter the instant they hit 60 with no work. It just doesn't seem healthy for progression and economy sake, I guess.

    It's just such a ridiculous 180 from how it was , just gearing out your 3 specialist classes took time and effort. You had to spend time farming favors and red scrips and you felt so satisfied when you got that awesome looking gear for your favorite crafter job, and you felt special because so few other people had it, but this is just... "Oh yay an ironworks piece, that was easy."

    Keep in mind I'm not saying buying your way to best in slot is bad, either, but I do think that the best in slot should at least be a little valuable and not be something everyone can get with literally no effort. Maybe they should have implemented a way to upgrade the 170 gear we made instead, or make the materials for ironworks actually difficult to come by, but this is just bad. Next patch everyone and their mom is going to be a 4 star crafter and it's going to destroy the economy.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 07-03-2016 at 11:20 AM.

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