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  1. #171
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    NaesakiAshwell's Avatar
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    Yes tanks should be swapping stance when the incoming damage allows it, dungeon wise, there is no point of staying in tanking stance once aggro has been established.
    Unless you're mass pulling a horde of mobs, but then I guess it depends on how much the healer can handle.
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  2. #172
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    mp-please's Avatar
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    Danielle Leclair
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    Unless you're mass pulling a horde of mobs, but then I guess it depends on how much the healer can handle.
    Was talking mostly of bosses. But yea depending on the healer its possible to change stance on trash as well.
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  3. #173
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    Yes tanks should be swapping stance when the incoming damage allows it, dungeon wise, there is no point of staying in tanking stance once aggro has been established.
    Ok..now that is new information.
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  4. #174
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Ok..now that is new information.
    Well, hardly. It's much like overhealing, really. Or using a DoT on the last 1% on a DPS role. Whether you're 50.000 points of enmity ahead of whoever is second or 500 points ahead. As tanks aren't risking losing enmity while out of tank stance, why not change your stance to deal more damage if the situation allows it?
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  5. #175
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    Bracken's Avatar
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    Thamuz Sect
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    Zodiark
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    No thank you. I main healer and am there to heal not DPS. My role is to keep people alive not to deal damage. SE has said that the content is designed so healer DPS is not calculated into the fights why would they add DPS into any bonus calculation?
    you basically answered your own question, its so content can be done without the healer being a constant DPS, however things go better when the healer is contributing to the DPS instead of taking #selfie during the healing lul

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCMAcUPU0Rs
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  6. #176
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    CherrySoda's Avatar
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    Forgotten Way
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    White Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Well, hardly. It's much like overhealing, really. Or using a DoT on the last 1% on a DPS role. Whether you're 50.000 points of enmity ahead of whoever is second or 500 points ahead. As tanks aren't risking losing enmity while out of tank stance, why not change your stance to deal more damage if the situation allows it?
    Because tank stances can reduce the amount of healing required and increase healer dps. If your healer isn't dpsing then well, no reason to be in tank stance once you have enmity.
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  7. #177
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    Aija Dal
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    Balmung
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    Re: Healer DPS- The fastest way to get me to not DPS is to tell me to DPS.
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  8. #178
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Well, hardly. It's much like overhealing, really. Or using a DoT on the last 1% on a DPS role. Whether you're 50.000 points of enmity ahead of whoever is second or 500 points ahead. As tanks aren't risking losing enmity while out of tank stance, why not change your stance to deal more damage if the situation allows it?
    I already do stance dance as a healer. I just didn't know it was a thing for tanks as well.
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  9. #179
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    Ronyx's Avatar
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    Karse Farrence
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    Sounds like you might need to go to the Hall of the Novice and complete the healer training. They directly tell you to DPS if no one needs healing. And I don't mean to sound too harsh, but a system like this is designed for players like you.
    lol I took that training and basically you do need to heal the NPCs or you epic fail and beat it not problem w/o atking. Heck the tank is so weak and if you stop healing him he can die easy lol.
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  10. #180
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    Danielle Leclair
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by CherrySoda View Post
    Because tank stances can reduce the amount of healing required and increase healer dps. If your healer isn't dpsing then well, no reason to be in tank stance once you have enmity.
    Proper cooldown management does more than stance. Full vit warriors for example have so much HP in defiance it's ridiculous outside savage and half dungeon pulls, which don't exist anymore. Before vit became one of the factors for dealing damage on tanks, most tanks would get the minimum threshold to survive busters and then stack up on strength all the way, with vit being viable now a tank can run with 25-30k hp making up the difference of not being on tank stance.
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    Last edited by mp-please; 07-10-2016 at 04:36 PM.

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