Anima quest is too slow.

[Brill_]

The quest isn't slow, it's boring. I don't mind a long term grind, but the 3.x relic quests have all come down to "grind tens of thousands of tomes" Tome grinding is the absolute worst part of this game. The only efficient way to grind tomes is through daily roulettes. So I have to spend everyday doing dailies instead of doing stuff I'd rather be doing. More options than grinding tomes to ge these items would be nice. I liked the crystal sand part of the quest. then they had to make umbrite only obtainable from tomes. Alternatives ways to get umbrite or alternative ways to get tomes besides spamming the same dungeon over and over and over is needed. It's not fun, which means SE is doing it wrong.

[Lunafreya]

I was actually done this step in a few weeks compared to months for the unidentifiable items. It is very slow and boring but at least it is something to do.

[Brinzy]

So how did people get their Crystal Sands? I don't have a gatherer or crafter at a reasonable level, which is what I am assuming the difference is. Makes me regret not investing the time into that.

[Neophyte]

Well, since you get Esoterics on almost every content, what about just playing the game?

I think 10 Esoterics/minute is the absolute maximum (without new player boni, also hunts can have higher eso/min of course, but are not constant available), so you have to do at least 40h of content for your relic. Nothing will change that (right now).

I recommend:

• Duty Roulette 60, Duty Roulette 50 (<- only, if you need the poetics, too), Duty Roulette Expert (<- only if you still need lore)
• ARF, ARF, ARF
• Seph, Rav, Thor, Niddy EX farms (and especially kill groups = Bonus; then also A5S kills)
• Midas Normal kill (watch you linkshells/fcs/Party finder) for bonus
• hunts, hunts, HUNTS!

Tome grinding is the absolute worst part of this game. The only efficient way to grind tomes is through daily roulettes. So I have to spend everyday doing dailies instead of doing stuff I'd rather be doing.

The only and most efficient way is 15 min runs in ARF and chaining hunts. Everybody, who just cares about the ammount of esoterics, should never do leveling roulette for those 100 esoterics for instance.

What are those things people want to do instead? The only content, which gives no esoterics are:
Fates, aquapolis, old ex primals (ponyfarm), leveling/lvl50-dungeons without roulette, non-combat-Content.


@Brinzy: Get the levequest "Dance, Magic Dance", go to the marked Location and do this:

• start leve
• Mount and fly a circle and watch for a chest
• If chest, open it, cancel leve and restart. If no chest, cancel leve and restart.
• Trade stuff from chest 1:1 for sands

[Brinzy]

Thanks for that tip, but I actually exhausted my leves doing this and am out. Did this for a week now, and I'm barely under the halfway point. I guess I was just unlucky and have to keep at the grind.

[Neophyte]

Thanks for that tip, but I actually exhausted my leves doing this and am out. Did this for a week now, and I'm barely under the halfway point. I guess I was just unlucky and have to keep at the grind.

The leves you get should still give you about 1-2 sands a day.

If you hunt occasionally, you can also trade in 20 allied seals for the ilvl 100 acc and trade it for 575 GC seals:

700 allied hunt seals = 35 accesoire = 20125 GC seals = 4 moon stones

But this is only available, if you're not doing another relic where you need the seals for UI items. Also it's a lot of hunts for 1 item, but the allied seals are worthless anyway (except earlier relic step or if you need ventures; teleport tickets are nice to have, but common xD).

This, leves and getting every old ex primal or coil kill group (I know they're not thaaat common anymore) are the only "farmable" things (besides running Amdapor HM, lol).

I really wish they give us something like this:

10 x Bismark-Totem
10 x Ravana-Totem
10 x Thordan-Totem
= 1 sand

10 x Sephirot-Totem
10 x Niddhog-Totem
= 1 sand

Yeah, people have stocked them in several 99-stacks... but that's exactly what gatherer/crafter did with blue (or red, since they are basically the same now) scripts.

[bounddreamer]

This weapon isn't intended for your immediate gratification. You're intended to work for it. If you want comparable weapons you can do savage raiding or extreme farming. If you can't do those, then it's the slow grind or unsub til the game patches in higher, readily accessible weapons you don't have to grind or strive for.

[Brinzy]

@Neophyte, I actually didn't realize that Allied Seals had a good conversion rate for that. I actually have 4k right now, so I will definitely do that. Thanks for the help!

[Jenelli]

The problem people are having here is that for just one weapon it requires an inordinate amount of time. If square is worried about sub rates dropping because "relics are too fast", then there's a problem. Why?

1.) more invested gamers would want to do the quest more than once. But at this rate I don't think I know of a person on my server who has two of the 240s. So there wouldn't be any loss of subs.

2.) more casual gamers find a lot of the easy stuff (yes the relics are easy here) to be a huge chore. It's not necessarily something they can work for within their time constraints yet they still want to play.

The point is exactly that people do want to do the anima quests, but it feels more like punishment than a goal. I don't think people have had a huge problem with the means to get sands, it's to many people the esoterics act as a choke point. Why not add alternative methods as well?

Also, please square bring back the trials part of relic weapons. We miss that.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Trials for relics will never come back because players complained it was too hard.