Thief and Ninja!

[Powercow]

No Gladiator makes more sense being a Thief than a Marauder. Dagger, Dual weild? or Great Axe?

They do not have dual wield. Marauders sneak around and steal things. Which one seems more thief-like, the class that has no similarities to a thief, or the class that has quests to be a thief?

Not saying Marauder should become thief, I'm just saying that it's far more likely that any of the other DoWs will become thief first.

That aside, all im saying is Thief should be a Job, and not a class. It doesnt make sense for Thief to be a class. It doesnt matter if Thief had Maurauder for its class, or even Pugilist. All i care about is Thief not being a class, its degrading.
Im sure players want thief as a Job. you would get Job specific Gear (artifact) and such.

Really? It's degrading? Come on.

Ninja can have all the Sneak attack stuff, thats not the point. The point is Thief has been a staple Job, and should stay as one.

Again, thanks for agreeing with me that thief should be the base class... again. In FF1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11, T, and TA, thieves have either been one of the starting jobs, a job gained in the tutorial dungeon, or given right at the beginning. That seems like a base class to me.

It just seems to me like you wanna see thief AF armor, and have no real logical basis for thief being a job besides that. It's not degrading at all; that's an obtuse and completely subjective opinion.

[Powercow]

parry materia can only go on GLA / MRD / LNC / CNJ 2-Hand / THM 2-Hand

pug gets no access to it

The Pug comment was more towards parry gear, not necessarily the materia.

[Engineer]

They do not have dual wield. Marauders sneak around and steal things. Which one seems more thief-like, the class that has no similarities to a thief, or the class that has quests to be a thief?

Not saying Marauder should become thief, I'm just saying that it's far more likely that any of the other DoWs will become thief first.

Really? It's degrading? Come on.

Again, thanks for agreeing with me that thief should be the base class... again. In FF1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11, T, and TA, thieves have either been one of the starting jobs, a job gained in the tutorial dungeon, or given right at the beginning. That seems like a base class to me.

It just seems to me like you wanna see thief AF armor, and have no real logical basis for thief being a job besides that. It's not degrading at all; that's an obtuse and completely subjective opinion.

Well, im sticking to my Guns, lol and Thief should be a Job as it always has been. Class = Weapon, Job = Role so in XIV Thief as a class doesnt make sense at all.