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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Except that it doesn't. Friending your alts would have two effects: you'd be able to share a house, and you'd be able to send stuff to them through mogmail. Sharing a house would clearly help SE who has some difficulty in expanding housing enough for everyone. Sending items through mail doesn't change anything about retainers, since we can already pass stuff through the FC chest, or sell to ourselves through the MB.

    People who claim it would affect retainers seem to think it would be used for mule alts, but all it does is take what's currently possible but awkward and make it still possible but awkward. There's NO CHANGE in that. People want mail access to pass items to the character who would use the item, not to shuffle them off to where they aren't as accessible.

    Oh, plus there's the fact that this was an issue before paid retainers even existed. That's proof enough that the rule isn't about them...

    SE has already told us that the reason we can only send mail to friends is to cut down on RMT. I certainly wouldn't want every spambot to be able to flood my mailbox with their garbage, so to that extent it's a good thing. But the rule simply doesn't make sense for the specific case of alts on our own account. Nobody's going to be spamming themselves or buying gil from themselves. It's perfectly reasonable to make it an exception to the rule since it's already an exception to the reason for the rule to exist.
    Also this!!!
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    I like how this current Yokai event is like a huge middle finger to those that play with Alts. Instead of 1000 fates, I'll have to do 2000.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacien View Post
    I like how this current Yokai event is like a huge middle finger to those that play with Alts. Instead of 1000 fates, I'll have to do 2000.

    Thanks.
    Why having alts in a game that allows you to do everything with the same toon ? ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Any chance they might have changed their minds on this disappeared when they introduced the extra paid-for retainers
    alts don't get access to the other retainers. If they are so concerned about the retainer income, they can make it if you have all 6 extra, you get your alts added to your friend list automatically. Then it's a selling point.
    It's certainly nothing to do with RMT if it happens under the same account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Why having alts in a game that allows you to do everything with the same toon ? ^^"
    try gearing them all at the same time so that you can switch forth and back a couple times a day. We are talking endgame gear here, not green/whites from expert dungeons. Tell me how that works out for ya :d
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    try gearing them all at the same time so that you can switch forth and back a couple times a day. We are talking endgame gear here, not green/whites from expert dungeons. Tell me how that works out for ya :d
    The Yokai Watch weapons are anything but endgame gear.
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    The Yokai Watch weapons are anything but endgame gear.
    and who mentioned yokai watch weapons? right nobody. point is, it's easier and faster to make some alts and gear them via savage or just lore tokens, than trying that on one character. But let's take your example, it's also easier and faster to do the yokai watch weapons on different characters, because the first weapon is only 7 legacy tokens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Why having alts in a game that allows you to do everything with the same toon ? ^^"
    I got asked this when I joined a FC with six alts. :P For me personally it's a couple of things. I'm just used to it, for one. Another is that I'm the type of person that just CANNOT stick to one appearance. With so many options it's hard to choose just one. And rather than pay tons of money for Fantasias, it's easier to make alts. And since I'm so used to it it's nothing really hard for me to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacien View Post
    I like how this current Yokai event is like a huge middle finger to those that play with Alts. Instead of 1000 fates, I'll have to do 2000.

    Thanks.
    Gosh yeah, I'd be fine doing a 1000 Fates if it meant I was done with it on my alts too, but like doing it all over and over is just absolutely hell.

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    To answer Celef and response to Amariel, I jive pretty well with her opinions. I also like roleplaying, and rather than use a fantasia and spend 30 bucks to play a "new character" an alt works well enough. I wish the game wasn't so alt unfriendly though. I've also got personal reasons as I wanna try to get two Roegadyn alts to level 60 as I feel kinda guilty having only a Miqo'te at 60 for when the census roles around.
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    I'm a giant dragon and heretic sympathizer and I love character customization

    See my thread about equalizing the heights for men and women of each race! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/253435-A-suggestion-regarding-height.

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    This should have been default from day 1.
    Mind boggling it is still so restrictive smh
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