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  1. #1
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Remove Aetherochemical Research Facility from 60 Dungeon Roulette

    Please. I don't mind it when someone is new and needs to complete it to advance their story, but I've gotten it 4 days in a row now, with no one new. Some people may like the extra ESO's, but I don't have any dire need for them personally.

    Add the dungeon to the MSQ Roulette, and add ESO's to that Roulette for those running it for their relics. I'd rather have variety and a chance at a dungeon pet or pieces of gear that would be nice for Glamoring, or crafting materials.
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    AGREE COMPLETELY!!

    out of Lvl60 roulette the last 2 weeks, I've rolled Lost city once, and this every other sodding time, It's not a roulette, it's garbage, boring, mundane, rubbish ><
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Instead of asking for it to be removed, how about you guys just leave the instance, take the 30m hit, and just queue for one of the other dungeons directly? If you don't need Esoterics, which is the main attraction of Lv60 roulette (100 Eso, 15 Lore), then why are you queuing for it? You get more out of running Hullbreaker HM or Sohr Kai (40 per instead of a potential 45). And even if the 5 Lore was a make or break, just do a Dragonskin/Wyvernskin Map, or better yet, run Aquapolis or do Gnath tribes. This game gives you so many avenues for tomestones it's ridiculous that people are complaining about a dungeon in a roulette popping up a lot.
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    You get it so often because people farm their esos in there for the relics. And to be honest this dungeon is less annyoing than neverreap.

    Why are you going Level 60 anyway if you don't need/want esos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    I need the Esoterics for my 230 Whm relic.

    I want a roulette, not a mindlessly boring forgone conclusion. regardless of it paying more Esoterics, the title of the Duty roulette is Duty ROULETTE. If it constantly spits the same dungeon over and over and over, it's not a roulette, it's crappy boring garbage.
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    If you que up solo you will be put into that dungeon where people are NEEDED. And since tons of players que up for this dungeon you will get it very often. What is your problem to understand it? Don't you understand how this DF ROULETTE works?

    Always these whiny crap because something is not exactly how a handfull of people want it is really ridiculous. Just deal with it how it is at the moment just like i had to deal with the roulette at the beginning where i almost every day got that damn neverreap.
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    Last edited by Ilan; 07-05-2016 at 09:54 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    I need the Esoterics for my 230 Whm relic.

    I want a roulette, not a mindlessly boring forgone conclusion. regardless of it paying more Esoterics, the title of the Duty roulette is Duty ROULETTE. If it constantly spits the same dungeon over and over and over, it's not a roulette, it's crappy boring garbage.
    If the roulette tells you it's a roulette, it's a roulette. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have gotten Neverreap and Fractal yesterday and the day before, would I? Also, what Ilan said is true, if a lot of people queue for the same dungeon, and that dungeon is in the roulette, you're obviously going to go into that dungeon... if you want Esoterics and not be in ARF, then queue for Lost City HM or Antitower and save the strife for later...
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    I'll take my free 250 Esoterics thanks.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    And these always go in streaks anyway. I had a couple weeks of getting ARF 4/5 of the time, the most recent couple weeks have been AntiTower 4/5 of the time. Ive had arboretum show 4 days in a row. Yeah, it sucks a little that there arent any chests inside and all you get is the Esos, but at least they upgraded them. I remember when ARF was part of the roulette and it was just for 50 Eso and nothing more. That was brutal to get over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Instead of asking for it to be removed, how about you guys just leave the instance, take the 30m hit, and just queue for one of the other dungeons directly? If you don't need Esoterics, which is the main attraction of Lv60 roulette (100 Eso, 15 Lore), then why are you queuing for it? You get more out of running Hullbreaker HM or Sohr Kai (40 per instead of a potential 45). And even if the 5 Lore was a make or break, just do a Dragonskin/Wyvernskin Map, or better yet, run Aquapolis or do Gnath tribes. This game gives you so many avenues for tomestones it's ridiculous that people are complaining about a dungeon in a roulette popping up a lot.
    I run the roulette because I try to run all my roulettes every day. I run the roulette because it used to be fun to think, "I wonder if I'll get Pharos Sirius HM, or maybe the Anti-Tower." If I wanted Lore Tomestones, I'd run Hullbreaker or Sohr Khai. But I cap out Lore Tomestones easily just doing the Expert Roulette.

    Right now, it's not fun to run Aetherochemical Research Facility. It's boring. The purpose of the Roulette has been subverted. There is no Roulette. It's like an 80% chance of getting Aetherochemical Research Facility. I don't want to take away people's ability to farm Eso's for their relics. Removing this one dungeon from the 60 Roulette and adding it to another Roulette wouldn't suddenly diminish the number of Eso's they get from running the dungeon. It just gives the rest of us the opportunity to enjoy the Roulette as it was designed to be.
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