Forcing NA Duty Finder to be better, we need a grading system.

[MihaelB]

In my opinion can't really force anything. Not everyone is good at mmos. We were all newbies once. Making mistakes and all. The game is clearly to have fun. Not to bash our heads against eachother.

Rating system would be really waste of time and effort of resources. Would want SE to work and focus on important parts of the game.

That's the problem because of our low skill level the developers were obligated/forced to release content simplified to their gamer's skill level and will further release low skill level tier content. How long do you think you can sustain playing a game with dungeons at this patch level with the dungeons meaning to sustain you for months?

Then imagine with 4.0 coming where they mentioned the skill level in rotation would be dropped even lower because people can't handle HW rotations which is very evident sadly to say. 2017 for the game doesn't seem like a great outlook combat wise for me.

Yeah the game is meant to be fun and all but do you really think our community should just keep catering to the people who find spending 30mins+ whacking a dungeon because they find mashing their keyboard, fun? It's going to be 2018 or 2019 at this rate before we get something interactive and interesting to the combat system.

Luckily I enjoy crafting and housing which keeps me interested in playing but that's ignoring or cringing at a big section of the game which is the dull combat.

[Paladinleeds]

I think that FFXIV does need to push the ball a little bit. Yes, by all means, we understand not everyone is good at MMOs, but you have to challenge people I find. Now what is easy for some people is gonna be ridiculously difficult for others (for example, try and get me to do decent DPS on a DPS class, you've got more chance of winning the Jumbo Cactpot 10 weeks on the trot with the same numbers each week and nobody else winning, but I tend to do pretty decently as a healer/tank), but at the same time, more needs to be done on this. I think the community also needs working on. We need to be more helpful to each other. Work with people, support them. Don't just be like:

Urgh you suck, you shouldn't be playing WAR, your DPS is rubbish, git gud scrub.

Be constructive, and give helpful tips that show them better ways to do things. Plant the seed to help them improve. At the same time, if someone gives you a helpful tip, such as:

To maximise your opener for WAR, go into Deliverance and then: do your 2 combos (one with Storm's Eye, then the one with Butcher's Block), then hit Berserk, Fell Cleave, Infuriate, Fell Cleave, do the 2 combos again and weave a Raw Intuition into it for a 3rd Fell Cleave before Berserk runs out. If you can't achieve this you may need to get more skill speed on your gear. If this is the case, consider trading out some gear for equivalent gear with Skill Speed, or possibly meld Skill Speed onto your gear.

Then you need to listen and take it on board and be open to trying it. And I speak as someone who has got defensive before. Someone explained to me "Oh you should keep darkside up at all times" to which I explained "I only use DRK for levelling roulette, for venturer in need, since I play PLD more in dungeons but it's rubbish IMO in low level dungeons". That being said, I do at the very least use Darkside on bosses, unless it's add frenzy, because I find I can keep my mana up. Outside of that, I feel I struggle with it.

I think THIS is what we should be working towards, features that will nurture and encourage the community to work together. Could a rating system be part of that? I aren't convinced myself, but it's definitely worth bringing the idea up to see if we can make it work.

[Underdog2204]

Perfectly fine to do it with ilv210 gear in the new dungeons. The only thing is that the healer will have a little less time to DPS.

So do any TP using classes -_-

[Reynhart]

Then you need to listen and take it on board and be open to trying it. And I speak as someone who has got defensive before.

Problem is, several times, you'll end up with defensive people that will politely (or not) tell you to mind your own business.
If the game tells you "You can do better, and you'll be rewarded for it", these people might look upon ways to improve by themselves or even come seeking advice.

Just make sure that their "rank" is only available to them and that the rewards are not breaking the balance between players.