Forcing NA Duty Finder to be better, we need a grading system.

[MihaelB]

This is a bad idea. Bad players won't get better playing with other bad players. Good players don't play well 100% of the time.

Which is the whole point, if you want to get drunk or get high or play like a slob, you should be putting time in to make a PF for playing non effectively and not wasting time the others who are trying to play effectively. If you don't want to play 100% all the time, then go for that category that doesn't play 100% all the time.

Why do most people just accept it that it's set in stone we don't care about wasting our time carrying people and we should be wasting time to find a decent passable group?

Likewise for the people who want to AFK a dungeon with SCH/sic or who don't want to DPS while healing, go for it, the system will set you up with people who want to do the same.

If you want to learn something, make the time to form a group in PF to not get a grade and specify your group of friends/ you need help. Specify what stage and receive help instead of blindly charging in DF wasting 3-7 other people's time.

[EdwinLi]

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You will have to take into account DF Roulette as well with this type of system.

Roulette was introduced because players who were skills refused to help players who needed to learn or go through a Dungeon but could not due to becoming harder to find a group to help them through those dungeons since the content become old.

Back during early 2.X the community did use PF as a means to create Learning party before the introduction of Roulette current punishments and rewards. However, as content got older it back harder to create Learning Groups in PF since there was no "Reward" from helping players who were learning or new to the content. It had gotten worse to the point that if a player did not burned through the new contents on day 1 or first week they would get left behind fast being unable to find or create a Learning party for that specific content.

There were even people kicking players new to the content becuase the so called veterans who already beating the content felt their time was more valuable over helping a player get through that content for their first time even when that player new to the content was decently skilled at playing their job.

Not to mention players would out right quit the group over the sight or a "New Player to content" Notice.