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    Story Quests: Gameplay issue

    Hello,

    I'm new here and motivated to share something I hope others can confirm.

    Being a new player to the FF community, I was surprised by how players were behaving in the Duty quests (part of the main storyline). Time and time again the system would join me up with players who were so high level that they didn't care to explain what was going on, nor would allow me to learn on my own how to play the bosses.

    I have had to play the game through by 1) being kicked out of main battles BECAUSE I was watching the story line cinematic 2) players stampeded through the final story quest duties, even without completing sections of gameplay. I had to helplessly watch as cinematics would start up and the game would end... this happened not only toward the end of Realm Reborn during my play through - It happened since I started the game. I would prefer much more to play these storyline duties by myself than with other players who would undermine my story experience and learning.
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    Can anyone else confirm this and bump if they feel the same way?

    I think at least the first time you play through you should have a chance to watch the story line and engage with it by learning how to battle bosses. I can't tell you how many times I've had others reveal key moments about bosses that I just wanted to learn on my own.

    In movie reviews, I think they would call it "movie spoilers" - in this case, anytime you play with others during storyline duties, the other players behave like "final fantasy spoilers" - jumping past gameplay elements in duties, telling you how to make it easy to defeat a boss (without challenge for you), or beating them all for you as you helplessly get excluded due to a storyline cinematic.
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    I fully sympathize with you Accadia. Sadly though this has been a problem pretty much since launch, and the problem mostly affects the Castrum Meridanium and the Praetorium dungeons, as they are extremely cutscene heavy right through each dungeon, but of course high level players want to just rush ahead to get their 'Allagan tomestomes' they get as a bonus for queuing via the 'Duty Roulette' for helping with it, completely ignoring players new to the dungeon who want to experience it how it was meant to be played.

    Sadly the only real way to avoid this with the ARR dungeons is to ignore the Duty Finder and see if a couple of level 60 high-end geared friends can run you through it as an 'undermanned' (that is, with just your couple of people in the party and with no level sync), and let you view the cutscenes without interruption.

    In fact, if you were on my server I would gladly do just this and happily run you through things like Praetorium and let you view the cutscenes without problem. Unfortunately there is no other way that you can overcome this, other than maybe using Party Finder and forming a party for new players on your server and entering like that (and not using Duty Finder) - there is even an option in PF for 'viewing cutscenes' so anyone who joins knows what you want to do specifically. I'm sorry I have no other way of helping you overcome this though.

    Either way, hang in there! Not all level 60 players are tome-obsessed speedrunners who have forgotten their roots, that they were low level and new to a dungeon/trial/raid once too, a lot of us are more casual and laid back and far more emphaic towards low level players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Not all level 60 players are tome-obsessed speedrunners who have forgotten their roots, that they were low level and new to a dungeon/trial/raid once too, a lot of us are more casual and laid back and far more emphaic towards low level players.
    I second This. My beloved Enki speaks true. Not ALL of us are like that Accadia. It is too bad you're not on Balmung ((mine and Enki's world)) as you would be a welcome addition to our FC, as everyone in our family is not only willing to wait for and assist lower level people through their Stories, enabling them to enjoy them for how they were meant to be experienced...we encourage it. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by accadia View Post
    telling you how to make it easy to defeat a boss (without challenge for you).
    You're honestly just going to have to suck this one up until you are L60 and geared enough to participate in content the first few days it's released. Outside of the initial release the game mostly boils down to watch guide on YouTube > execute guide (Unless your static / LS / FC is into blind runs - which a few are)
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    Its a thing like Enkidoh said, its basically those 2 dungeouns. They are very very cutscene heavy across the whole dungeoun, and it was a major test for them to see if that would be the normal in later things to come, and as you, and many have said in the past, it ruined the last bit of story for a lot of people. With this in mind, I can pretty much guarantee that the rest of the game is NOT like that. Cutscenes happen in dungeouns as well later, but they happen at the start, and at the end, and not during, so as to not interrupt gameplay experiences. If you want to repeat them, I'd suggest maybe trying to find a party to do them in the Party Finder and find liked minded individuals and set aside a few hours to do it. If you skipped cutscenes to do the battles or were forced through and maybe missed some, you can re-watch cutscenes in your Inn room as well.
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