Mob mounts. Do you want them? (Poll)

[Tonkra]

As a reward, I'd prefer something to augment the mount I already have. How about chocobo armor? For myself I'd like armor that's dark knight-ish fashion. There exists an evil (or disgruntled) moogle, why not let me make my chocobo look evil too?

Chocos in FFXI:



with that and different armor stuff ... but maybe that will be only an option for chocobo knights. who knows.

[Hayden]

I want them, but I voted no. I feel Mob mounts will not fit in with the feel of the game and will destroy immersion.

[Arcell]

I want them, but I voted no. I feel Mob mounts will not fit in with the feel of the game and will destroy immersion.

Not being able to use those large creatures as mounts is destroying my immersion. Your argument doesn't really hold up well.

I'm more surprised at the fact that there are people who don't want this implemented. It's just like the response to jumping. If people don't like something they'll think of any excuse to have it cut from the game or to try and prevent it from being implemented just so they don't have to see other people with said thing.

If you don't like the new mounts then don't use them.

It's embarrassing how childish some members of this community can be. These threads come up every time a new addition to the game is announced, and then they disappear once said addition is implemented.

^THIS, especially the last bit. I just don't get how one could not want additional features that aren't hurting anything aside from maybe their own personal tastes. Guess what, the devs aren't here to appease a single person. Judging by the poll on the front page, more people want monster mounts and they've already done a vast majority of the work to get the system functional.

[Inaaca]

I'm just not getting this argument about how Final Fantasy mounts featuring Final Fantasy mobs are supposed to destroy immersion in a Final Fantasy game. People are all for big bulky Magitek mounts, but as soon as someone wants to ride something alive besides a Chocobo it's absurd and will somehow destroy their game experience?

It doesn't fit the Final Fantasy feel? How are you defining this? Final Fantasy games are all over the place with fantastical and crazy elements, but somehow riding a monster defies this? Too unrealistic? Good, this game needs more fantasy in it to make it interesting. Doesn't fit the lore? The lore for these mounts hasn't been written yet, and there's nothing in the current lore that directly contradicts the possibility of them existing.

Also there's the argument that because other MMOs have living mounts, that somehow means that FFXIV shouldn't be allowed to have them because they'd be too similar to said aforementioned MMOs. Really? Are we going to deprive FFXIV of interesting features on the sole grounds other MMOs have tried similar things? Might as well scrap any notions of introducing an AH, housing, or guilds so they don't destroy immersion by being too similar.

C'mon, the game needs exciting additions and fresh thinking more than ever if it's going to survive. Don't stifle the game's creativity and promote blandness by arguing against every interesting new idea that Yoshi comes up with. Let the game grow and stop trying to contain it in a little box of things that have already been established. Let's establish new stuff and make the game a bit more colorful.

[Roaran]

There's only one way I could see this implemented that would make it all right with me.

First, that chocobos remain the fastest mount, and the primary mount for travel.

Second, that there be a wide variety of mounts, and the bigger/cooler ones be somewhat hard to obtain.

[Majidah]

I'm against these cheesy mounts unless they are only being designed as the reward for staying until 2.0.
I'm not against mounts other than chocobos, magitek armors sound great... but I think it'd look tacky if these tamed wild monster mounts are made into an every day common item when this goes mainstream.

[Djeserit]

I'm just not getting this argument about how Final Fantasy mounts featuring Final Fantasy mobs are supposed to destroy immersion in a Final Fantasy game. People are all for big bulky Magitek mounts, but as soon as someone wants to ride something alive besides a Chocobo it's absurd and will somehow destroy their game experience?

It doesn't fit the Final Fantasy feel? How are you defining this? Final Fantasy games are all over the place with fantastical and crazy elements, but somehow riding a monster defies this? Too unrealistic? Good, this game needs more fantasy in it to make it interesting. Doesn't fit the lore? The lore for these mounts hasn't been written yet, and there's nothing in the current lore that directly contradicts the possibility of them existing.

Also there's the argument that because other MMOs have living mounts, that somehow means that FFXIV shouldn't be allowed to have them because they'd be too similar to said aforementioned MMOs. Really? Are we going to deprive FFXIV of interesting features on the sole grounds other MMOs have tried similar things? Might as well scrap any notions of introducing an AH, housing, or guilds so they don't destroy immersion by being too similar.

C'mon, the game needs exciting additions and fresh thinking more than ever if it's going to survive. Don't stifle the game's creativity and promote blandness by arguing against every interesting new idea that Yoshi comes up with. Let the game grow and stop trying to contain it in a little box of things that have already been established. Let's establish new stuff and make the game a bit more colorful.

The argument against them is due to Yoshi pushing the game to feel more FINAL FANTASY, not just generic fantasy. If there's 2 things that make a game Final Fantasy, it's a guy named Cid, and Chocobos being the main (granted, not only) form of ground transportation. Magitech is also acceptable because it's an iconic thing from a previous game, and we already have established magitech in this world as well.

I understand wanting a huge variety of creatures to ride, but that doesn't make the game feel like Final Fantasy, it just makes it feel generic.

[Majidah]

I'm just not getting this argument about how Final Fantasy mounts featuring Final Fantasy mobs are supposed to destroy immersion in a Final Fantasy game. People are all for big bulky Magitek mounts, but as soon as someone wants to ride something alive besides a Chocobo it's absurd and will somehow destroy their game experience?

It doesn't fit the Final Fantasy feel? How are you defining this? Final Fantasy games are all over the place with fantastical and crazy elements, but somehow riding a monster defies this? Too unrealistic? Good, this game needs more fantasy in it to make it interesting. Doesn't fit the lore? The lore for these mounts hasn't been written yet, and there's nothing in the current lore that directly contradicts the possibility of them existing.

Also there's the argument that because other MMOs have living mounts, that somehow means that FFXIV shouldn't be allowed to have them because they'd be too similar to said aforementioned MMOs. Really? Are we going to deprive FFXIV of interesting features on the sole grounds other MMOs have tried similar things? Might as well scrap any notions of introducing an AH, housing, or guilds so they don't destroy immersion by being too similar.

C'mon, the game needs exciting additions and fresh thinking more than ever if it's going to survive. Don't stifle the game's creativity and promote blandness by arguing against every interesting new idea that Yoshi comes up with. Let the game grow and stop trying to contain it in a little box of things that have already been established. Let's establish new stuff and make the game a bit more colorful.

For example, in uldah's opening scene, in the parade they are controling a gobbue through magic so that it won't go berzerker on the people and they showcase it as this wild odd thing people will be amazed to look at... They fail to keep it under control and it trashes the place.

And now we are supposed to be okay with a bah-zillion players ridding them as mounts?

[Inaaca]

I'm against these cheesy mounts unless they are only being designed as the reward for staying until 2.0.
I'm not against mounts other than chocobos, magitek armors sound great... but I think it'd look tacky if these tamed wild monster mounts are made into an every day common item when this goes mainstream.

That's exactly what these example mounts represent.. A reward for players who played before 2.0.

The argument against them is due to Yoshi pushing the game to feel more FINAL FANTASY, not just generic fantasy. If there's 2 things that make a game Final Fantasy, it's a guy named Cid, and Chocobos being the main (granted, not only) form of ground transportation. Magitech is also acceptable because it's an iconic thing from a previous game, and we already have established magitech in this world as well.

I understand wanting a huge variety of creatures to ride, but that doesn't make the game feel like Final Fantasy, it just makes it feel generic.

So you're saying that FFXIV can't implement things that haven't been in previous Final Fantasy games because it won't be Final Fantasy enough? If SE followed that logic from the start we'd still be playing strictly the classes FF1 and moogles wouldn't exist. Everyone is too afraid to try new things. Sticking to the same old same old every FF game will just make the franchise stale. And really, SE has made each FF addition pretty distinct from its predecessors. Why shouldn't this game be?

Chocobos and airships will still be the primary mode of transportation. Chocobos aren't getting replaced here.

Even with that aside, these aren't random creatures from real life or other MMOs. These are Final Fantasy mobs. Ahriman? Goobbues? Are you trying to say a Final Fantasy mob isn't Final Fantasy enough for FFXIV?

For example, in uldah's opening scene, in the parade they are controling a gobbue through magic so that it won't go berzerker on the people and they showcase it as this wild odd thing people will be amazed to look at... They fail to keep it under control and it trashes the place.

And now we are supposed to be okay with a bah-zillion players ridding them as mounts?

One of the problems with referring to lore is that these mounts are coming in 2.0, AFTER this huge world-changing catastrophe. Who's to say this won't be a million times more plausible when that time comes? Yoshi knows the story and he came up with this idea. He's been doing a good job so far.

[samusaron]

On the Subject of Mount's We have had and always Had "Chocobo" whats wrong with that? Why complicate matter with Different mounts as you may expect to find in WoW or Lord of the ring's. This is Final Fantasy. We have Chocobo's nothing more. There has been a time in one of Final Fantasy Console Game where we Mounted Magitech , Which is what Yoshi-P has planned or in mind to do Which I think would be interesting, But its Still Final Fantasy. Lets keep it that way and not complicate matter's ;-)