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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well thats just an artwork? its a comic type of character and not a serious one. or you love to see cloud riding on a huge moogle guy (for example)?
    Yes, it's official game artwork of an existing Final Fantasy character from FFVII, or would you rather me post a screenshot?

    Also, that was exactly my point, it isn't a serious character, and yet it has a whole lot to do with the main serious plot of FFVII. Sillyness and comedy is part of the Final Fantasy genre too, and FFXIV should be no exception.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    A Machine Mount and a dragon to ride on which we can saw in the pictures from the live letter would have been OK (not more than ok). but a gobbue? seariously that looks awkward to all character types. a gobbue doesnt seem like that you can ride on it just standing there on his head. i think its inappropriate
    You don't stand on it, you sit on it. There's plenty of room on something that big. You did see the wireframe test animations for these mounts that Yoshi showed, right?

    But you're right, let's halt all production because you personally think big machines are cooler than big monsters when it comes to mounts. Not everyone thinks they look dumb. In fact, a lot of people love the idea. Don't throw a wrench into other people's fun just because of your personal tastes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well then i want to ride on a morbolus, too. XXXD would be also kind of strange. not every monster fits the role of being a silly mount.

    and i think a gobbue has always been a "special" monster type. with making a mount out of it.. it loses the impression of being special. really. every dumb will ride on a gobbue.

    i imagine how it will look like.. standing a gobbue next to a chocobo, a dragon, a tiger, an evil eye ...it will look like they are riding on freaking Pokemons or like players opening a zoo.. i dont like that kind of idea. chocobos will lose heavily of importance as well.

    but if you want kind of zoo/pokemon atmosphere (welcome to kitty online), because you want mounts like gobbue, evil eye and so on.. although it makes no sense at all .then here you go. . i mean there is maybe a "cool" feeling.. but this effect wears of after a couple of weeks. i think it destroys the atmosphere in the end.
    but people seem to be happy with this. final fantasy is not a standard MMO in many kinds.. the gameplay, the setting, global mmo... so why you want to make an "every kind" of MMorpg out of it?
    I'm pretty sure I already made my point against this argument. Here, let me find it and post it again for you.

    Okay, so Yoshi has tentatively put forward 3 possible limited edition 1 time only mounts. He's even said he's not sure about using those three, so it's clear that he's being selective and careful about what he chooses to be a mount. Considering this, he's not going to just start making anything and everything mounts willy nilly, nor will we have hundreds of mounts, so I don't understand how people are getting this.

    People are taking this tentative look at a few distinct mounts and translating it as "omg I don't want hundreds of mounts I can't believe he's doing this." That's drastically jumping to conclusions. Yoshi's smarter than this, and it's clear from the live letter alone that he's considering mounts carefully.

    In short, don't argue extremely unlikely and far off scenarios to try and make your case. It's not WoW (or Pokemon), it's Final Fantasy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i mean housing etc are really different things.
    Yeah, housing is different, but I used it as an example because it shares a common element. It's something that isn't required to be in FFXIV, but it's something that most people would like to have. This was made counter to your argument that we shouldn't have mob mounts because we "don't need it."


    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    a machine mount for example would be OK.. we have seen in many other FF's before like in FF12 when fran rides an aero bike.
    Pretty sure I addressed this before, too. Oh yeah, it was in this thread, specifically directed toward you. Here's my response again. It actually makes for a decent closing argument to boot.

    So Final Fantasy can never ever add anything to the franchise because it won't be Final Fantasy?

    Put yourself in a time before FFVI was released. Would you have declared that game to be not Final Fantasy because they made Magitek mounts, something never before seen in Final Fantasy and wasn't even a chocobo? Ridiculous, right? Totally not Final Fantasy. Well, it made its home in Final Fantasy as one of the most popular additions in the franchise, and continues to be something that players fondly look back on.

    This can only ever happen if SE pushes the boundaries to create NEW elements. We can't keep dwelling in the old, because Final Fantasy is constantly evolving with new ideas.
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