Mob mounts. Do you want them? (Poll)

[Inaaca]

I'm just not getting this argument about how Final Fantasy mounts featuring Final Fantasy mobs are supposed to destroy immersion in a Final Fantasy game. People are all for big bulky Magitek mounts, but as soon as someone wants to ride something alive besides a Chocobo it's absurd and will somehow destroy their game experience?

It doesn't fit the Final Fantasy feel? How are you defining this? Final Fantasy games are all over the place with fantastical and crazy elements, but somehow riding a monster defies this? Too unrealistic? Good, this game needs more fantasy in it to make it interesting. Doesn't fit the lore? The lore for these mounts hasn't been written yet, and there's nothing in the current lore that directly contradicts the possibility of them existing.

Also there's the argument that because other MMOs have living mounts, that somehow means that FFXIV shouldn't be allowed to have them because they'd be too similar to said aforementioned MMOs. Really? Are we going to deprive FFXIV of interesting features on the sole grounds other MMOs have tried similar things? Might as well scrap any notions of introducing an AH, housing, or guilds so they don't destroy immersion by being too similar.

C'mon, the game needs exciting additions and fresh thinking more than ever if it's going to survive. Don't stifle the game's creativity and promote blandness by arguing against every interesting new idea that Yoshi comes up with. Let the game grow and stop trying to contain it in a little box of things that have already been established. Let's establish new stuff and make the game a bit more colorful.

[Djeserit]

I'm just not getting this argument about how Final Fantasy mounts featuring Final Fantasy mobs are supposed to destroy immersion in a Final Fantasy game. People are all for big bulky Magitek mounts, but as soon as someone wants to ride something alive besides a Chocobo it's absurd and will somehow destroy their game experience?

It doesn't fit the Final Fantasy feel? How are you defining this? Final Fantasy games are all over the place with fantastical and crazy elements, but somehow riding a monster defies this? Too unrealistic? Good, this game needs more fantasy in it to make it interesting. Doesn't fit the lore? The lore for these mounts hasn't been written yet, and there's nothing in the current lore that directly contradicts the possibility of them existing.

Also there's the argument that because other MMOs have living mounts, that somehow means that FFXIV shouldn't be allowed to have them because they'd be too similar to said aforementioned MMOs. Really? Are we going to deprive FFXIV of interesting features on the sole grounds other MMOs have tried similar things? Might as well scrap any notions of introducing an AH, housing, or guilds so they don't destroy immersion by being too similar.

C'mon, the game needs exciting additions and fresh thinking more than ever if it's going to survive. Don't stifle the game's creativity and promote blandness by arguing against every interesting new idea that Yoshi comes up with. Let the game grow and stop trying to contain it in a little box of things that have already been established. Let's establish new stuff and make the game a bit more colorful.

The argument against them is due to Yoshi pushing the game to feel more FINAL FANTASY, not just generic fantasy. If there's 2 things that make a game Final Fantasy, it's a guy named Cid, and Chocobos being the main (granted, not only) form of ground transportation. Magitech is also acceptable because it's an iconic thing from a previous game, and we already have established magitech in this world as well.

I understand wanting a huge variety of creatures to ride, but that doesn't make the game feel like Final Fantasy, it just makes it feel generic.

[Majidah]

I'm just not getting this argument about how Final Fantasy mounts featuring Final Fantasy mobs are supposed to destroy immersion in a Final Fantasy game. People are all for big bulky Magitek mounts, but as soon as someone wants to ride something alive besides a Chocobo it's absurd and will somehow destroy their game experience?

It doesn't fit the Final Fantasy feel? How are you defining this? Final Fantasy games are all over the place with fantastical and crazy elements, but somehow riding a monster defies this? Too unrealistic? Good, this game needs more fantasy in it to make it interesting. Doesn't fit the lore? The lore for these mounts hasn't been written yet, and there's nothing in the current lore that directly contradicts the possibility of them existing.

Also there's the argument that because other MMOs have living mounts, that somehow means that FFXIV shouldn't be allowed to have them because they'd be too similar to said aforementioned MMOs. Really? Are we going to deprive FFXIV of interesting features on the sole grounds other MMOs have tried similar things? Might as well scrap any notions of introducing an AH, housing, or guilds so they don't destroy immersion by being too similar.

C'mon, the game needs exciting additions and fresh thinking more than ever if it's going to survive. Don't stifle the game's creativity and promote blandness by arguing against every interesting new idea that Yoshi comes up with. Let the game grow and stop trying to contain it in a little box of things that have already been established. Let's establish new stuff and make the game a bit more colorful.

For example, in uldah's opening scene, in the parade they are controling a gobbue through magic so that it won't go berzerker on the people and they showcase it as this wild odd thing people will be amazed to look at... They fail to keep it under control and it trashes the place.

And now we are supposed to be okay with a bah-zillion players ridding them as mounts?

[Roaran]

There's only one way I could see this implemented that would make it all right with me.

First, that chocobos remain the fastest mount, and the primary mount for travel.

Second, that there be a wide variety of mounts, and the bigger/cooler ones be somewhat hard to obtain.

[Tonkra]

There's only one way I could see this implemented that would make it all right with me.

First, that chocobos remain the fastest mount, and the primary mount for travel.

Second, that there be a wide variety of mounts, and the bigger/cooler ones be somewhat hard to obtain.

havent you thousands of MMorpgs out of there with silly and cheesy mounts? hum?.

Someone ask for gobbue mount.. seriously?

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catch'm all or what? ;Xd

this is NOT final fantasy. final fantasy ever had "just" chocobos

[Arcell]

this is NOT final fantasy. final fantasy ever had "just" chocobos

So that's all that makes a game FF? So what happens if we took say FF7 and added another creature mount to it? Would it then cease to be a Final Fantasy game? I don't think so, that's a really weak argument.

Also the series adds new things with each iteration, or at least a new take on an existing system. If we stuck solely with "tradition" the games would suck and the series would fail. Innovation and change are not evil concepts.

[Inaaca]

this is NOT final fantasy. final fantasy ever had "just" chocobos

What kind of logic is this? Final Fantasy can never ever add anything to the franchise because it won't be Final Fantasy?

Put yourself in a time before FFVI was released. Would you have declared that game to be not Final Fantasy because they made Magitek mounts, something never before seen in Final Fantasy and wasn't even a chocobo? Ridiculous, right? Totally not Final Fantasy. Well, it made its home in Final Fantasy as one of the most popular additions in the franchise, and continues to be something that players fondly look back on.

This can only ever happen if SE pushes the boundaries to create NEW elements. We can't keep dwelling in the old, because Final Fantasy is constantly evolving with new ideas.

[SniperRifle]

havent you thousands of MMorpgs out of there with silly and cheesy mounts? hum?.

Someone ask for gobbue mount.. seriously?

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catch'm all or what? ;Xd

this is NOT final fantasy. final fantasy ever had "just" chocobos

LMFAO.
GOOBUE IS NOT FINAL FANTASY!

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ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tonkra]

LMFAO.
GOOBUE IS NOT FINAL FANTASY!

U
SIR
R
IGNORED
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have no problem with that if i am ignored by someone like you. when i just look at your post.
no i didnt know that gobbue is from FFXIV *sarcasm off*... man your IQ is really high isnt it?

and i mean its not "final fantasy" like to ride on a silly gobbue ... really awkward.

What kind of logic is this? Final Fantasy can never ever add anything to the franchise because it won't be Final Fantasy?

Put yourself in a time before FFVI was released. Would you have declared that game to be not Final Fantasy because they made Magitek mounts, something never before seen in Final Fantasy and wasn't even a chocobo? Ridiculous, right? Totally not Final Fantasy. Well, it made its home in Final Fantasy as one of the most popular additions in the franchise, and continues to be something that players fondly look back on.

This can only ever happen if SE pushes the boundaries to create NEW elements. We can't keep dwelling in the old, because Final Fantasy is constantly evolving with new ideas.

but complaining about dragoon not be "traditional" enough... because the drg never ever had a wyvern to his side except FFXI.

and yes i think Final Fantasy are almost classic. typical FF aspects you can find in any game. and i dont think that we need a gobbue to mount on, which is really awkward and cheesy besides that. in every MMorpg we have silly mounts. i dont know what people care all about that.

[Inaaca]

i have no problem with that if i am ignored by someone like you. when i just look at your post.
no i didnt know that gobbue is from FFXIV *sarcasm off*... man your IQ is really high isnt it?

and i mean its not "final fantasy" like to ride on a silly gobbue ... really awkward.

Right, because Final Fantasy has never had any sort of similar sillyness ever before. Oh wait, what's this?

Pretty much exactly the same situation, if not sillier, as the Goobbue mount that you're denouncing as "not Final Fantasy."

but complaining about dragoon not be "traditional" enough... because the drg never ever had a wyvern to his side except FFXI.

and yes i think Final Fantasy are almost classic. typical FF aspects you can find in any game. and i dont think that we need a gobbue to mount on, which is really awkward and cheesy besides that. in every MMorpg we have silly mounts. i dont know what people care all about that.

Um, sorry, but I've never said anything like that about Dragoon. Not sure why that's even being brought up.

Yes, every FF has similar elements which make the franchise what it is. However, every FF ALSO has NEW elements which make each game different and distict from the last one. If it wasn't for this we'd be playing the same game every generation.

We don't "need" mounts? Of course not. We don't "need" housing or access to Ishgard either but a lot of people want those. The more stuff to do in MMOs, the better.

People like options and fun things to play with. This is one of them. Not everything has to be serious and "realistic" in a game meant to have fun.