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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Hoping for never to come eh?

    SE's pretty much decided the course on Dragoon. Again, they're not really going to completely rework jobs over agian, same goes with Black Mage. I wish people would realize this.

    But no, this conversation will never end, just like the RDM Front Line debate.

    Seriously if DRG get Wyverns as part of their base class mechanics, I want a dog to follow me around whenever I play Ninja when it comes out- because Interceptor was bada**.
    Ninja and a dog? that's a little silly since dogs have nothing to do with ninja's. SE already said long time ago theres a chance after 2.0 DRG will get its pet but at the same time i wouldn't be shocked if it did because took there time to give DRG it's pet back in FFXI.

    i can't remember what was said but was long the lines of DRG before 2.0 can't have a pet for it can't work with the system or something. if u live in the UK see if u can get ur hands on JG Mag. Think it was the feb or march issue.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssppiikkeeyy View Post
    Ninja and a dog? that's a little silly since dogs have nothing to do with ninja's. SE already said long time ago theres a chance after 2.0 DRG will get its pet but at the same time i wouldn't be shocked if it did because took there time to give DRG it's pet back in FFXI.

    i can't remember what was said but was long the lines of DRG before 2.0 can't have a pet for it can't work with the system or something. if u live in the UK see if u can get ur hands on JG Mag. Think it was the feb or march issue.
    I remember them saying if they give DRG a pet they will have to nerf the DRG himself all to hell and Yoshi was telling us that we wouldn't like that to happen.

    Edit: Yes, and ninjas and dogs do go together. Play FF3 or FF6, whatever they are calling it these days.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltara View Post
    I remember them saying if they give DRG a pet they will have to nerf the DRG himself all to hell and Yoshi was telling us that we wouldn't like that to happen.

    Edit: Yes, and ninjas and dogs do go together. Play FF3 or FF6, whatever they are calling it these days.
    never played them FF's but yea the drg will be nuff for its pet but like i said in a post before on this subject not hard to make the pet non-combat or even give him 10% DMG and DRG has full 90% still works for drg and no1 really going to cry over 10~5% dmg gone of there own dmg. Plus u get a cute little friend to play with. Sure no1 really plays DRG right now because it's weak and unless for endgame. The pet might give it some ad for endgame.

    There are so many easy ways to apply the pet to ffxiv without pissing everyone of, like make people who want the pet do a little quest for the pet if they want it and they have to sacrifice there DMG for it. They could also make it u have full 100% DMG on your DRG but when u smn ur pet u will sacrifice so much % DMG Give the warming on the little detail report of the ability so people no what there do or something.

    Like i said and i will keep saying there is loads of way to apply it just question is will SE do it right or wrong if they do finally decide what there doing about DRG after 2.0

    P.S. my english sucks ass lol sorry if it hard to read or something. & Sorry for all this text to read ><
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    Spikey Sato
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    no wyverns allowed

    especially when you can't be trusted not to give them your booze
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teakwood View Post
    no wyverns allowed

    especially when you can't be trusted not to give them your booze
    i'll only give them a little every pet need's to be drunk at some time lol
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssppiikkeeyy View Post
    never played them FF's but yea the drg will be nuff for its pet but like i said in a post before on this subject not hard to make the pet non-combat or even give him 10% DMG and DRG has full 90% still works for drg and no1 really going to cry over 10~5% dmg gone of there own dmg. Plus u get a cute little friend to play with. Sure no1 really plays DRG right now because it's weak and unless for endgame. The pet might give it some ad for endgame.

    There are so many easy ways to apply the pet to ffxiv without pissing everyone of, like make people who want the pet do a little quest for the pet if they want it and they have to sacrifice there DMG for it. They could also make it u have full 100% DMG on your DRG but when u smn ur pet u will sacrifice so much % DMG Give the warming on the little detail report of the ability so people no what there do or something.

    Like i said and i will keep saying there is loads of way to apply it just question is will SE do it right or wrong if they do finally decide what there doing about DRG after 2.0

    P.S. my english sucks ass lol sorry if it hard to read or something. & Sorry for all this text to read ><
    Dude, your english is great and you make great points. I think that most people playing DRG would like to have their wyvern back and I'm all for giving the people what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltara View Post
    Dude, your english is great and you make great points. I think that most people playing DRG would like to have their wyvern back and I'm all for giving the people what they want.
    i just try to make it fair for everyone like people want a pet and there's people who dont thats prob the best way to do it and keep everyone happy about it i think.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malix View Post
    Really? First of all i was refering to the poll question of how often people view/post on official forum, NOT THE POLL ASKING DO PEOPLE WANT PET CLASSES. so what the heck are you talking about. On another note you "and this is far from the only one" must translate into 2 so if by far is 2 than you right bcz there's only 2 thread about wyvern. Now nest time you reply to my post please read and understand it and for the record i dont care if we get a wyern or not i was merely pointing out that the majority of the FFXIV community doesn't visit the forums to get an accurate vote on rather the majority want wyverns or not.

    But seriously tho i dont know how you got that from what i posted. and again i was refering to the questions here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/46936.

    Q3. Do you view the official forums?
    Q4. Do you post on the official forums?

    hmmm sorry about that, dont know why I read more into it then what was actually there. And you are incorrect about there being only 2 threads concerning wyvern there have been lots.
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  9. #179
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    To save myself the writing, I'll just quote myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Just shaving off some of Dragoon's damage to accommodation a Wyvern, even if it's a choice, is not balancing it. And to create an 'option' for a Wyvern that is tied to Dragoon's base mechanics means they'd have to work twice as hard to balance the Job as they would for every other Job class in the game - which would draw away from Pet Jobs who should have more attention paid to them.

    We've got a simple and easy alternative to the demand for Wyverns, we don't need to muck it up by trying to bind it to our Job specifically.
    Seriously, quit asking for things that are counter-intuitive for the game. Forcing the developers to re-develop jobs they've already gone over again just because you feel you're not in the minority (when it is a high probability that you are) is fool-hearty.

    Best way to have cake and eat it too is already being developed, and is likely a far superior system than just shaving 10% off of our damage to have more clutter on an already effect-crowded screen.

    If they do implement Wyverns, I do not want the system they had in FFXI, I want the system to actually have depth to it. However, the more depth they add, the more they would have to take from Dragoon to do it. And I personally do not want to be nerfed any more (We've already have had to be buffed once substantially and even that's not enough to cut through the bias.)

    So, let's keep it on a separate system.

    We can just as easily go off the coming Chocobo system, slap a "You can only call this pet while on the Dragoon Job." requirement and be done with it. It's exactly the kind of 'buddy' system a Wyvern would deserve to have and it gives the option for Dragoons who don't want it to opt out, and allows the developers to balance the Wyvern on it's own, instead of having to counter-balance it by hurting Dragoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deltara View Post
    Edit: Yes, and ninjas and dogs do go together. Play FF3 or FF6, whatever they are calling it these days.
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    Thumbs up for catching the reference.
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    Last edited by Hyrist; 06-22-2012 at 07:53 AM.

  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    *sigh*

    To save myself the writing, I'll just quote myself.



    Seriously, quit asking for things that are counter-intuitive for the game. Forcing the developers to re-develop jobs they've already gone over again just because you feel you're not in the minority (when it is a high probability that you are) is fool-hearty.

    Best way to have cake and eat it too is already being developed, and is likely a far superior system than just shaving 10% off of our damage to have more clutter on an already effect-crowded screen.

    If they do implement Wyverns, I do not want the system they had in FFXI, I want the system to actually have depth to it. However, the more depth they add, the more they would have to take from Dragoon to do it. And I personally do not want to be nerfed any more (We've already have had to be buffed once substantially and even that's not enough to cut through the bias.)

    So, let's keep it on a separate system.

    We can just as easily go off the coming Chocobo system, slap a "You can only call this pet while on the Dragoon Job." requirement and be done with it. It's exactly the kind of 'buddy' system a Wyvern would deserve to have and it gives the option for Dragoons who don't want it to opt out, and allows the developers to balance the Wyvern on it's own, instead of having to counter-balance it by hurting Dragoon.


    Shadow and Interceptor.



    Thumbs up for catching the reference.

    I guess i would be ok with it if it was an optional part of the buddy system. But others without Dragoon may not like that Dragoon gets a job specific buddy.
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