Do you want Dragoon to have a pet!? (poll)

[Krausus]

So what you've said here is, if your looking for max single target DPS DRG isn't the best, and if your looking for AoE max then DRG is not the best. So then really what I'm thinking is that DRG isn't now but to give it some abilities that'd make it useful for more than it's not "top" DPS in any situation, then we all could benefit.
If they come from a pet, great, if not, I'm still ok w/ it, I just am sick of being asked to play "not" DRG because it's not the best at anything at all. MNK has equal or better DPS and more survivability, WAR can tank AoE trash mobs and still hold it's own DPS on single targets especially while Berserk is up. BLM will forever have the highest DPS, that's fine it should, but the relatively low risk that they spew spells with now makes them OPd as a result of WARs insane hate gen.

Really my whole stance is give me something that makes me desirable, idc if it's a pet or not. I don't get why people are so opposed to pets in general. Did they really do people that bad in the past? I loved my PUP, BST wasn't bad, DRG was decent if you subbed the right things and used it well, SMN well let's be real SMN was beast for alot of stuff. Pets in other games were almost all useful, except for a couple vanity ones, what's the worst that could happen here?

Why should DRG be the best? Our self sustainability is second to none not sure why you think MNK has more survivability we have access to all their survivability skills as well as Life Surge. Sure DPS is similar but we dont have to burn through mana to sustain ours. BLM is also reliant on a mana pool as well as low survivability. I agree with the direction Yoshi is taking DRG which is to make them a crit based DD.

As for WAR berserk sucks balls and they are not comparable to DRG in damage and they are nerfing SC which is a major factor in WAR hate generation. If you are asked not to bring DRG then those people are idiots.

[syntaxlies]

Why should DRG be the best? Our self sustainability is second to none not sure why you think MNK has more survivability we have access to all their survivability skills as well as Life Surge. Sure DPS is similar but we dont have to burn through mana to sustain ours. BLM is also reliant on a mana pool as well as low survivability. I agree with the direction Yoshi is taking DRG which is to make them a crit based DD.

As for WAR berserk sucks balls and they are not comparable to DRG in damage and they are nerfing SC which is a major factor in WAR hate generation. If you are asked not to bring DRG then those people are idiots.

i would argue that war has the best self sustainability

[Krausus]

i would argue that war has the best self sustainability

yeah you are right, though I guess DRG would be second best

[Enfarious]

Why should DRG be the best? Our self sustainability is second to none not sure why you think MNK has more survivability we have access to all their survivability skills as well as Life Surge. Sure DPS is similar but we dont have to burn through mana to sustain ours. BLM is also reliant on a mana pool as well as low survivability. I agree with the direction Yoshi is taking DRG which is to make them a crit based DD.

As for WAR berserk sucks balls and they are not comparable to DRG in damage and they are nerfing SC which is a major factor in WAR hate generation. If you are asked not to bring DRG then those people are idiots.

I didn't say it should be the "best" just pointed out that right now it's not the best for anything. I want equal aka balanced. By what was said it's going to go, for DPS don't get a DRG, for tanking don't get a DRG, for AoE killing "trash" mobs don't get a DRG. If DRG is an optimal job for any of those spots please correct me, otherwise let's be real and say that it needs some looking at.

MNK has better survivability and maintaining the otherwise worthless MP pool on MNK isn't hard at all. Life Surge isn't getting you back enough and Second Wind on a non MNK isn't comparable. DRG gets notta else Dreadspike is straight garbage. WAR w/ Rampage up unless your unlucky as all get out can get back obscene amounts of HP, not just w/ SC other WSs crit just as well.

BLM w/ a semi-decent tank has to worry very little about that whole getting hit thing. Running out of MP does happen but it's not enough to actually push any decent BLM DPS below others.

Your right Berserk isn't the best thing going, but in a DD role WAR does hold it's own, after SC and what have you get nerfed we'll see, but then they're buffing Berserk so...

People ask for "not" DRG often, lnc is fine alot of the time, but lnc doesn't have the damage output a DRG does so there's that trade off.



I think though that you skipped past my actual point, which was just asking for balance, through the addition of a pet w/ some nifty buff/enfeeble/heals or some other means.

[Krausus]

I didn't say it should be the "best" just pointed out that right now it's not the best for anything. I want equal aka balanced. By what was said it's going to go, for DPS don't get a DRG, for tanking don't get a DRG, for AoE killing "trash" mobs don't get a DRG. If DRG is an optimal job for any of those spots please correct me, otherwise let's be real and say that it needs some looking at.

MNK has better survivability and maintaining the otherwise worthless MP pool on MNK isn't hard at all. Life Surge isn't getting you back enough and Second Wind on a non MNK isn't comparable. DRG gets notta else Dreadspike is straight garbage. WAR w/ Rampage up unless your unlucky as all get out can get back obscene amounts of HP, not just w/ SC other WSs crit just as well.

BLM w/ a semi-decent tank has to worry very little about that whole getting hit thing. Running out of MP does happen but it's not enough to actually push any decent BLM DPS below others.

Your right Berserk isn't the best thing going, but in a DD role WAR does hold it's own, after SC and what have you get nerfed we'll see, but then they're buffing Berserk so...

People ask for "not" DRG often, lnc is fine alot of the time, but lnc doesn't have the damage output a DRG does so there's that trade off.



I think though that you skipped past my actual point, which was just asking for balance, through the addition of a pet w/ some nifty buff/enfeeble/heals or some other means.

what I'm saying is DRG is not garbage like many would like some to believe, sure they can use a boost which they are getting. I just prefer it in the vision of Yoshi. And I still think DRG has better survivability than MNK Life Surge gives plenty of health back and its constant, we also have second wind as well. if you are looking at straight numbers then yes we dont fall at the top or equal in damage as BLM and MNK but you have to take more into consideration than just numbers. IMO BLM has it to easy with combos which is why they can put out so much damage.

[Enfarious]

what I'm saying is DRG is not garbage like many would like some to believe, sure they can use a boost which they are getting. I just prefer it in the vision of Yoshi. And I still think DRG has better survivability than MNK Life Surge gives plenty of health back and its constant, we also have second wind as well. if you are looking at straight numbers then yes we dont fall at the top or equal in damage as BLM and MNK but you have to take more into consideration than just numbers. IMO BLM has it to easy with combos which is why they can put out so much damage.

again you say that MNK and BLM out do DRG by the numbers, what else matters? If we parse lower we parse lower, there's no real argument against the numbers. If the argument is ease of play BLM has it again, and MNK is no harder than DRG.

Life surge at the cost of power surge and second wind on mnk is 900~1k on DRG it's ~350, life surge @3 doesn't compare to that 600 difference in 45 seconds.

I love DRG btw, it was my first 50, was the first in Beta, and at release was first for me, when they altered the abils they gimped it horribly. I want to be able to skewer shit again. I want alot of those old skills back, and would happily throw some of what we have back in the barrel to be recycled. Right now though, I just can't make myself play my DRG, and it makes me sad.