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    Can we get hunt points for doing fates

    Hunts right now don't really feel like anything special or anything. More like afk for 5-10mins and wait for one of your linkshells to send a message <pos>. There is alot of drama that goes with it and if your slow loading in good luck on getting a hit in.

    I think if they gave like 5 hunt points if your max level for doing any low level fates if you make it easier & fun for new players coming into the game. People could just teleport around looking for fates. Standing around in one zone with 100 players doing fates wouldn't be the answer. Need something like how lights worked but having players switch to another zone every 30mins to do fates.

    As for the hunts currently in the game, I would keep them in the game but create a quest line that rewarded you hunt points for slaying them. But keep adding in more quest lines and hunt NMs in each patch.
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    ...why should Fates give out hunting seals? They're already giving you a currency, two even - gil and GC-seals...

    for a quest: you can get hunting allocations on a daily basis for both ARR and HW hunts; they require you to slay specific mobs in the open world.
    Some currency is related to some special content and I dont really see why that should change (specially in this case) - we might aswell just get rid of all curreny except one then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    ...why should Fates give out hunting seals? They're already giving you a currency, two even - gil and GC-seals...

    for a quest: you can get hunting allocations on a daily basis for both ARR and HW hunts; they require you to slay specific mobs in the open world.
    Some currency is related to some special content and I dont really see why that should change (specially in this case) - we might aswell just get rid of all curreny except one then!
    #1 Seals are basically useless. #2 Everything gives gil in this game, #3 Those are dallies, im talking about HNM B ranks, sure they start off with the easy B ranks we have now. Think of it like a solo/semi group quest where you would go around popping your NM. Finish the quest, go do the next part of the quest.
    #4 Fates are dead. Noone is really doing them. More so in the ARR zones. As a new player you don't really do any fates with anyone till your in coerthas or north thanalan.

    Basically you wouldn't really be doing hunt NMs for hunt points. They could add something within each quest line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    #1 Seals are basically useless. #2 Everything gives gil in this game, #3 Those are dallies, im talking about HNM B ranks, sure they start off with the easy B ranks we have now. Think of it like a solo/semi group quest where you would go around popping your NM. Finish the quest, go do the next part of the quest.
    #4 Fates are dead. Noone is really doing them. More so in the ARR zones. As a new player you don't really do any fates with anyone till your in coerthas or north thanalan.

    Basically you wouldn't really be doing hunt NMs for hunt points. They could add something within each quest line.
    1) No, they're not - you can buy tones of materials for them, venture coins for your retainers etc. etc. - on the other hand a lot of people actually seem to consider hunting seals more useless
    2) yeah, whats the problem? Not everything has to give hunting seals aswell
    3) so you mean like... not actually hunting? Like... the dailies we've got? Also thats a totally different idea from what you were suggesting about Fates giving hunting seals. And: ARR daily-hunts actually required fate-mobs (not sure if they still do)
    4) So, whats the problem? As a NEW player you dont even have to do Fates at all... and you normally dont need many people to finish fates in lowlevel zones. Apart from that: do you really believe people wouldnt figure out the best zone to farm fates for seals and stick to that and that only?

    Hunts arent designed to be something you're doing solo. They're not supposed to be something that you can just farm and grind as much as you wish. They are supposed to be this content and they're giving out a special currency to reward those who enjoy it, nothing wrong with that... join a hunt linkshell and participate in spawning A and S ranks, if thats what you wish to do

    Edit: apparently you dont seem to know this but S ranks require certain things to be down to spawn - bäm, there you go: quest!
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    Last edited by Vidu; 07-02-2016 at 06:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
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    1) Oh useless mats from old ARR patches? Who still needs moonstones... Ventures? Oh those coins I have 200 of and all 2 of my retainers are both 60 and they don't even give anything good for sending them out? Last time I really needed seals was in 2012 when I needed them to rank up in 1.0. Its 2016 SE, wheres the new Grand company ranks.

    2) Sounds like you got a problem with opinions or even ideas? Sure this game is perfect is every way.
    3) Quests, not dallies. Kill Leaping Lizard, then go kill X then go kill X. Quest done. Heres a minion. Pick up A rank questline.
    4) Yeah you dont but wouldn't it be fun to play with players? This is why they are talking about a jump potion. These players wanna play with other players and there is no one around at the start of the game, duh.

    Your wrong, they can be grind as much as you wish. Yes I can solo a A rank. Its not hard, just everyone hates you for killing one without them claiming.
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    Last edited by Beetle; 07-02-2016 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    1) Oh useless mats from old ARR patches? Who still needs moonstones... Ventures? Oh those coins I have 200 of and all 2 of my retainers are both 60 and they don't even give anything good for sending them out? Last time I really needed seals was in 2012 when I needed them to rank up in 1.0. Its 2016 SE, wheres the new Grand company ranks.

    2) Sounds like you got a problem with opinions or even ideas? Sure this game is perfect is every way.
    1) Mats are still useful for a lot of people; venture coins are still useful for a lot of people (sending your retainers out for crafting mats, minions, "gambeling" with quick ventures)
    2) No, I dont actually As long as they're thought through carefully you're hopping from "Fates should give seals!" to "Let us have a whole new quest-chain!"

    I actually kinda do like your idea of a quest, sounds like a fun thing to do - but I dont understand why it has to be related to hunts? (...and why do you get a minion after doing one quest?) What do you need those seals for so despartely that you need to have them added to stuff thats totally not hunt related?

    Also: New players dont want to get to HW quickly to play with other people in general but either to play the new jobs or to play with their friends who dragged them into the game and now discover that they cant really play together for quite a while. Leveling up really isnt a problem with all the quests and the buffed exp-rewards from dungeons (I leveled up my first class in 2.0 and it was perfectly doable without looking at fates)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    #1 Seals are basically useless.
    I like ppl who think seals are useless and pass on absolutely everything that gives them because they deem them worthless. Thank you, you have made me gillions!

    Also there are two ways to read this thread:

    "I don't wanna do that but give me the shinies anyway cause I pay a sub so I deserve it anyway"

    and/or

    "I have an idea, lets further reduce the already severely lacking amount of content this game has by making yet another thing redundant because I don't wanna do it."

    Hunts need a revamp, true, but taking the awards away from them is not the way to do it.
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    Then don't AFK and actually Hunt the damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    Then don't AFK and actually Hunt the damn thing.
    Yeah sure 100's of players wander around the zone waiting for them to spawn. It explains every time when a NM spawns everyone is shouting invite.
    Also got other players using scan programs looking for enemies in the zone. Sure its fair to do my part.
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    Last edited by Beetle; 07-02-2016 at 07:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
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    It is not hard to get allied/centurio seals. It requires some participation.
    While we're on the subject, hunt targets would also be found faster if you actively hunt rather than just waiting for stuff to be called by others.
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