DPSing as a healer

[FunkyBunch]

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It's not elitist to expect you to play like the Hall of the Novice tells you to. The Hall of the NOVICE. It's not called Hall of the Elitist OMFG DPS TO THE MAX NO HEALS QQ GOOD PLAYERS ONLY.
It's not even tough to do, it's not like you have to scramble to click things.
Especially outside of raids.
It can be a bit tough to set up the hot bars (5-10 mins), but if you do, it's nearly impossible to not DPS.
You just click the next thing.
Oh, tank is 50-75% health? Click Cleric, Click hotbar one, click Heal spell of choice until full. You have like 5-10 seconds to do it, and can do it pretty lazily.
No one's asking you to max out every single point of damage and heal at the absolute min amount of health to do all the DEEPS.

All we would like, is for you to learn to click cleric stance, a couple dots or Gravity/Holy at the beginning of an encounter (or end) and then you can stand around doing nothing.

[Tsumes]

It's not elitist to expect you to play like the Hall of the Novice tells you to. The Hall of the NOVICE. It's not called Hall of the Elitist OMFG DPS TO THE MAX NO HEALS QQ GOOD PLAYERS ONLY.

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

[Megotaku]

These posts...you should really go look up what makes a good argument and what makes a bad one. Just google "rules of logic" or "logical fallacies".

Not only did you not address a single premise of my argument, your argument is called a "red herring". Irony...

[FunkyBunch]

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

Why do you think they added the Hall of Novice? It's because players would get to level 60 and be terrible and not know how to do their job.
Just be not terrible. Just be better than a Faerie, or a bot or a chocobo. I'm not asking for you to do 1000 DPS a fight.
No is asking you to perform raid quality.

[FunkyBunch]

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

Also, why not start a new class (WHM for example) do the Hall of the Novice and just be not terrible with the new healer? Best of every world for everyone.

[Tsumes]

Also, why not start a new class (WHM for example) do the Hall of the Novice and just be not terrible with the new healer? Best of every world for everyone.

I've tried WHM, though it's not bad. I don't find it as enjoyable as AST. I like playing with the card buffs. That, and I don't feel like lulling my way from level 1 just yet. It took me months to get to level 50. I don't really feel like doing it all over again. I want to get through the story first. While I commend them for adding such a feature, it's a bit too late. It should've have been in place from day 1. The time it took to complete the first HoN for the reward given, just doesn't make me want to do it. I'm not learning anything I don't already know. Yes, I know how to stance dance. I simply choose not to because it's too much of a hassle. On occasion I do. Just not often.

[FunkyBunch]

I've tried WHM, though it's not bad. I don't find it as enjoyable as AST. I like playing with the card buffs. That, and I don't feel like lulling my way from level 1 just yet. It took me months to get to level 50. I don't really feel like doing it all over again. I want to get through the story first. While I commend them for adding such a feature, it's a bit too late. It should've have been in place from day 1. The time it took to complete the first HoN for the reward given, just doesn't make me want to do it. I'm not learning anything I don't already know. Yes, I know how to stance dance. I simply choose not to because it's too much of a hassle. On occasion I do. Just not often.

As long as you know you're playing suboptimally, that's all I ask. Just know that you're costing other people time by playing worse than the Hall of the Novice asks you too.
Remember this is a multi-player game. You're 1/4-1/8 of the players you play with and your suboptimal decisions affect them. They also pay for their game.
Again, you won't be raiding if you continue to play like you do. Your "laid-back" style couldn't handle it anyway.

And yes it does take months to get to level 60. But once you get to 60 it takes maybe a week or two to get another class to 60.
What you shouldn't be doing is encouraging other players to play suboptimally or pretending like it's acceptable. Square Enix went out of their way to tell every up and coming healer to DPS. You shouldn't be trying to influence new players to play poorly because you choose to play a certain way that now even SE says is suboptimal.

[MaikoRaines]

The hall of novice wasn't put in place when I started playing. So I'm not going to 180 my way of playing because of a feature that should've been in place since 1.0

And with attitudes and semi-poisonous logic like that, this is why the Hall of Novice was introduced.

[Tsumes]

What you shouldn't be doing is encouraging other players to play suboptimally or pretending like it's acceptable.

I don't recall ever telling or suggesting that others should play like me. I would be the LAST person on this planet who would tell someone else how to play any game. People can play how ever they see fit.

I realize this is a multiplayer game. But at the end of the day, "it's my subscription". You wouldn't give a random person half your gil would you? I doubt it. Because it's yours. Their play will be negatively effected since you didn't. But you probably don't see that as selfish.

Extreme is a cake walk for me. Savage can't be that much more difficult. Don't confuse "laid-back" with "standing still". I don't and have never simply stood in one place an entire fight. Savage requires more movement and quicker responses. Both of which are not in the least bit difficult. Memorizing those movements are another issue entirely though lol.

[Tsumes]

And with attitudes and semi-poisonous logic like that, this is why the Hall of Novice was introduced.

Poisonous is trying to force your way of play onto others. The developers are not an exception to this. Just because they created it, doesn't mean they get to dictate how I get to the finish line. If they want to force people to confrom to a specific style of play. Then build it into the game and don't give them an option. Otherwise, let players play how they choose to play. Yes, playing optimally is probably preferred for most. But god forbid someone have a different style of playing that doesn't conform to your straight line system.