Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
What part of priorities and supplementary do you NOT understand? If there is no need to heal then obviously something else would be the better thing to do, which is where the supplementary part comes in. Healing comes first. But clearly, with your line of thinking it's one or the other. DPS or nothing. Screw healing, screw everybody counting on me to keep the party alive and going, cause I gotta deal the damage, you say. Why are you a healer if you can't get that part straight??? Healing comes first, then everything else. Healing is number 1 on the list Slowpoke.
I appreciate someone willing to write a detailed post... but it's really unfortunate when people answer another long post in ways that indicate a lack of understanding of what they're replying to. Take this quote, for example. Slowpoke quite clearly stated in his post that "Healing comes first, but fighting is not supplementary when healing currently isn't required". This isn't the statement you're arguing against here.

To show what he's saying:

1. You've specifically quoted his stating that your insinuation that "more and more healers are arguing that healing comes second" is a strawman argument. Because "no one argues this". If he really carried the opinions you've just railed against... wouldn't he have agreed with your point here?

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Heals always come first. Fighting is purely supplementary.
No healer who pushes for DPS will contest the first part. It's the second we vehemently disagree with...Fighting is not supplementary. It's part of our job...
Slowpoke's opinion here can't get any clearer than this. He is absolutely agreeing that "heals comes first" but disagreeing that "fighting is purely supplementary". These ideas are not mutually exclusive.

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...or even play hard ball with their stance on DPS healers which again, clearly they are against that.
Take, for reference, that Cleric Stance was disabled in PvP for reasons resembling "Healers were too powerful in PvP because of it". Nothing quite indicates that the devs don't support a specific strategy than outright disabling the skill that enables it, right?

If they're so against Cleric Stance in PvE Party Based Content than they clearly must have disabled it instances by now - oh, wait. The truth is that Yoshida himself has acknowledged Healer DPS as a thing that is happening and is not against it.