DPSing as a healer

[Normalizer]

As a SCH, I have trouble finding time to DPS in some dungeons. The Brayflox's Longstep, for example... I couldn't go into CS even a little bit on that one. The Fairy just couldn't keep up with the damage, and you don't get Leeches until lvl 40...

If you are leveling it might be bit harder to find time to dps, especially when you are bit undergeared for content or still learning the job. Should keep trying though. Also, the party also play a big role, if you get a newish tank with slightly lower gear or like to pull a lot, or not used CDs optimally, it will be harder for you to keep them up. Don't be discourage though, and just keep trying.

Also, make a macro for embrace spam the tank, and use it early and often. Fairies won't heal until someone under 80% though, so you want to force her to heal the tank sooner and keep healing him. I think it mentioned in "How to train your fairies" thread.

Edit: It's here, actually find it for you cause the thread seems buried somewhere. There are other tip/trick in the thread, however not all macros are good so don't over use them:

Other reasons for me not using Embrace + Heal Macros are these babies:

/focustarget
/echo Embrace eternity, <f>!
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <f> <wait.2>
/echo <p> asks: Should I heal again, Mistress? <se.11>

/echo Embrace eternity, <2>!
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <2> <wait.2>
/echo <p> asks: Should I heal again, Mistress? <se.11>

/echo Embrace eternity, <3>!
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2>
/echo <p> asks: Should I heal again, Mistress? <se.11>

These macros force my faerie to heal my focustarget, Tank 1 or Tank 2 (respectively) for 5-8 consecutive times (see the wait 2 secs? They work as "cooldown ques" per the terms used here) unless another macro is used to interrupt it. This lets me focus on healing other members of my group as needed. Of course when I use another macro I have to reapply one of those macros if I need to.

[Zadocfish]

... Is it the "focus target" and /pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2> part that's important? Or are the echos also important? And, what do the numbers and "wait" mean?

[FoxyAreku]

As a SCH, I have trouble finding time to DPS in some dungeons. The Brayflox's Longstep, for example... I couldn't go into CS even a little bit on that one. The Fairy just couldn't keep up with the damage, and you don't get Leeches until lvl 40...

Your tank might have been undergeared or not using cooldowns or something, I can go in there with Selene and never leave cleric stance the whole dungeon, sans one or two parts on boss fights.

... Is it the "focus target" and /pac "Embrace" <3> <wait.2> part that's important? Or are the echos also important? And, what do the numbers and "wait" mean?

It's a macro. The whole thing is important, or it won't work as the person who wrote it intended. :P

Though I tried it myself and <wait.2> doesn't work since embrace cooldown is 3 seconds, <wait.4> is what you have to do I think.

[Normalizer]

No <wait.2> is the correct one. The original poster did explain, the gap between the <wait.2> and the embrace cooldown (which is 3) let you do thing like queue up fairies skill while the macro still active, she will do the skill you want her to, then back to continue the embrace macro. Do note that when your fairies embracing you cannot use her skills, if you set it to <wait.3> there will be no room for you to "queue" up other skills which in turn make the macro rather useless (or harmful).

@Zadoc: You should read up or find some quick guide on macro if you do plan on using them, wrong macro can be harmful xD I don't really understand your question though but here is a quick break down nevertheless:
/focustarget set your current target as focus target
/pac .... stands for pet action, it will command your pet do her skill. /pac "Embrace" <t> will tell your fairies to cast Embrace on your current target for example
<t>, <f>, <1>, <2>... are placeholders in macro, they will be translated to the actual target, with <t> is your current target, <f> is your current focus target, <1> to <8> is the party member at position 1 to 8 on party list, with how it is shorted <1> will be you, <2> and <3> normally your 2 tanks. With that in mind, a /pac "Embrace" <1> will cast embrace on yourself for example. There is also <mo> for mouseover and <tt>for target's target.
<wait.N> with N is a whole number 1, 2, 3, .... let the macro wait N seconds before going to the next like.
/echo outputs something only you can see.

[Zadocfish]

Oh, that's a very simple explanation! Alright, with that I think I can make my own Embrace spam Macro. I play on PS3, so I can't just copy and paste...

[Rawrz]

/pac embrace <2>
Use your keyboard (I hope you have one. They work on PS3 and really help chat, even if playing with controller) repeat the line 14 more times. I use the macro icon for the 1st blue shield. You can select this from a list if you click on your blank "M" icon next to the title of the macro.

For the 2nd tank slot
/pac embrace <3>
Repeat again. I used the 2nd blue shield.

This commands her to heal the target once, while queuing her to do so. All you have to do is press it during cast bar times. It works very well on an extended hotbar. After you're used to it, it'll become part of your DPS. The more and earlier she heals, the longer you can cleric stance, and the more likely shell proc the SS buff.

[FoxyAreku]

No <wait.2> is the correct one. The original poster did explain, the gap between the <wait.2> and the embrace cooldown (which is 3) let you do thing like queue up fairies skill while the macro still active, she will do the skill you want her to, then back to continue the embrace macro. Do note that when your fairies embracing you cannot use her skills, if you set it to <wait.3> there will be no room for you to "queue" up other skills which in turn make the macro rather useless (or harmful).

Really? Because when I did it every other embrace just didn't go off, and I'd get an error message to pop up which was quite annoying (though I think I can turn error messages off I've never had to).

[Normalizer]

I don't know, i get no error from those macro. I will test it again and see, but the macro haven't failed me before though.

Edit: Ok after testing it again with wait.2, .3 and .4 i would say .4 works too i think, it has no pop up error either. strangely though since i remember i had to use .2 before. Maybe they made some change about macro, embrace and fairies queue somewhere along the line I will update the other post too.

A note though, with .4 you probably don't want to have use full 14 lines of the macro. i think best is to limit it to only 4-5 times (16-20 sec duration of embrace spam).

[Rongway]

Really? Because when I did it every other embrace just didn't go off, and I'd get an error message to pop up which was quite annoying (though I think I can turn error messages off I've never had to).

That particular macro is only supposed to fire every other embrace.

Timeline, beginning from macro use:

1. Fairy begins casting Embrace.
2. -
3. Macro errors--fairy is still casting.
4. Fairy finishes casting -- you may manually fire a fairy ability here.
5. Fairy begins casting Embrace.
6. -
7. Macro errors--fairy is still casting.
8. Fairy finishes casting -- you may manually fire a fairy ability here.
9. Fairy begins casting Embrace.

So really, you could just set the waits to 4s and get twice as many autoembraces out of it, but one thing that the 2s wait version gives you is the ability for it to pick up sooner if you do manually insert an ability.

1. Fairy begins casting Embrace.
2. -
3. Macro errors--fairy is still casting Embrace.
4. Fairy finishes casting Embrace. You may manually fire a fairy ability here.
5. Fairy begins casting Embrace.
6. -
7. Macro errors--fairy is still casting Embrace.
8. Fairy finishes casting Embrace. You manually fire Whispering Dawn.
9. Macro errors--fairy is still casting Whispering Dawn
10. Fairy finishes casting Whispering Dawn
11. Fairy begins casting Embrace.

If you use 4s waits instead, the next Embrace will be at 13 instead of 11.

[Normalizer]

Thanks for the explanation Rongway, i used that a lot but never really saw that reason behind the use of .2. I thought that was because of something else LOL.