DPSing as a healer

[Tsumes]

The goal is for you to understand that you're playing suboptimally.

This is where this line in the sand is I suppose. Some players such as yourself, play with the goal of being perfect or optimal. Others, such as myself who plays on console majority of the time does so for the enjoyment. Not to essentially gain anything from it. The reason I mentioned console is because most may not be aware. But console has vastly less available hot keys then PC does. PC I have roughly 20 skills hot keyed and ready to hit at a moments notice. On PS4 there are 8 available, that doesn't require pressing multiple buttons to gain access to extra hot keys. This is not the case on PC. PC is a single key stroke. Simple and quick.

FYI: I've been in a number of raid groups with the same FCs, and no one's complained about how I play. So your argument that every one at end-game is an elitist is false.

[FunkyBunch]

This is where this line in the sand is I suppose. Some players such as yourself, play with the goal of being perfect or optimal. Others, such as myself who plays on console majority of the time does so for the enjoyment. Not to essentially gain anything from it. The reason I mentioned console is because most may not be aware. But console has vastly less available hot keys then PC does. PC I have roughly 20 skills hot keyed and ready to hit at a moments notice. On PS4 there are 8 available, that doesn't require pressing multiple buttons to gain access to extra hot keys. This is not the case on PC. PC is a single key stroke. Simple and quick.

FYI: I've been in a number of raid groups with the same FCs, and no one's complained about how I play. So your argument that every one at end-game is an elitist is false.

I play on PS4. I know how it works. I don't play on PC, I don't even have a PC account. I have a DPS hot bar and a Heal Hot bar.
But thanks for trying.
And for the record your character isn't even high enough level to be in a raid group. Your highest level character is a 53 Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner.
We're talking Savage content here. Level 60. When you get there and try to get in a raid, it ain't gonna happen if you play like you do now. Everyone at end game isn't Elitist, but they won't tolerate purposely suboptimal play.
You'll notice there's not a single parse for all of Savage Content where BOTH healers have zero DPS. The main healer will have low DPS (~100) but never zero.

[Tsumes]

I play on PS4. I know how it works. I don't play on PC, I don't even have a PC account. I have a DPS hot bar and a Heal Hot bar.
But thanks for trying.
And for the record your character isn't even high enough level to be in a raid group. Your highest level character is a 53 Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner.
We're talking Savage content here. Level 60. When you get there and try to get in a raid, it ain't gonna happen if you play like you do now. Everyone at end game isn't Elitist, but they won't tolerate purposely suboptimal play.
You'll notice there's not a single parse for all of Savage Content where BOTH healers have zero DPS. The main healer will have low DPS (~100) but never zero.

Because of course. Everyone uses a 3rd party site to log stats so they can brag about being "optimal".
Contradicting yourself isn't exactly helping your case. Not that I really care. It's not me your trying to convince.

I'll just say you're right because you obviously need to hear it.

[Lyth]

Healing is like playing a rhythm music game. The focus target cast bar cues you in to the timing of the incoming note. You time up your little heal, your big heal, and your AoE heals to the rhythm of the incoming damage spikes.

The problem is that you can't simultaneously design a healing challenge for players of all skill levels. Gear eases up the timing checks the longer a fight has been out, enabling more healers to clear the fight. Eventually you reach a point where you can heal completely out of sync with the incoming damage, without regard for timing.

But what do you do once you've met the minimum competency check? When a group sufficiently outgears a fight, how do you differentiate between a healer who knows the timings of every auto and every cleave in advance, versus someone who is healing completely reactively? More importantly, how do you push yourself to become better? You add in more notes. This is where the other half of the skills on your hotbar come in.

Healer dps is significant. But that's not the only reason why you should do it. Your dps is also a metric of how well you understand the timing windows of a fight, and it's a way by which you push yourself to improve in anticipation for future challenges to come. You don't start a game on Easy difficulty if you're experienced at playing it.

With regards to progression: how aggressively you play is a matter of personal choice. But if you're progressing on a later phase of a fight, you should definitely be improving your dps windows in earlier phases. How quickly you are able to do this is a function of how quickly you learn and adapt.

[FunkyBunch]

Because of course. Everyone uses a 3rd party site to log stats so they can brag about being "optimal".
Contradicting yourself isn't exactly helping your case. Not that I really care. It's not me your trying to convince.

I'll just say you're right because you obviously need to hear it.

How am I contradicting myself? Main healers do less DPS and all the healing, secondary healers do lots of DPS and almost no healing. This is savage content. It's tough. And even though it's the hardest content in the game, the main healer still does DPS.

[Tsumes]

snip

I was going to leave this thread to fall into the shadows where it belongs, but your post is simply too funny. Not that's it wrong. But the way you explained it is so far left field some people may not even get it rofl. That said, I wasn't aware bosses had rhythm, never played that close enough attention to them. I've always played FF games for their story, not so much the combat. Kind of interesting.

P.S. I play every game on easiest possible mode regardless of my own skill level. (Story oriented person, not a hardcore gamer). heh

[Parawill]

Because of course. Everyone uses a 3rd party site to log stats so they can brag about being "optimal".
Contradicting yourself isn't exactly helping your case. Not that I really care. It's not me your trying to convince.

I'll just say you're right because you obviously need to hear it.

Now you're just throwing in things that are irrelevant to prove your point. While it is understandable that some players prefer not to heal because of their playstyle, things such as controllers and ego boosting does not change the fact that the healer who heals only provides healing, and the healer that heals & DPS'es offers more than the former.

[Tsumes]

things such as controllers and ego boosting does not change the fact that the healer who heals only provides healing, and the healer that heals & DPS'es offers more than the former.

I've said it multiple times already. I'm not saying you, her, him, or who ever is wrong. I've actually said you're right on a few occasions.
I don't care what DPSing offers. I prefer a relaxed non-elitist style of play. Yet they still seem to think I'm trying to prove something. I don't have anything to prove, to you, her or anyone else. I was simply stating my style of play. So I'll say it again.

I don't care what DPSing does to improve or slow down a group. I prefer to play a relaxed non-forced style of play that allows me to enjoy the game as opposed to bull rushing through it like elitists. If you're bothered by people not DPSing as a healer. Simply form your own group and don't use the public system. If I was trying to force my style of play on to others then you'd have ground to stand on. As it stands, you currently do not.

[CBellz]

I don't care what DPSing offers. I prefer a relaxed non-elitist style of play. .

I mean personally, I'd be bored out of my skull if I didn't DPS. Most of the healing in this game requires you to cast like 1 GCD or oGCD every 5 seconds or even more, especially if you're a scholar. 90% of the 8 man party content in this game can be solohealed without any real difficulty, which means the if the second healer didn't DPS he could probably eat dinner or take a short bathroom break during a pull and no one would notice.

Sometimes I queue into a dungeon and I tell myself I won't DPS because I'm too lazy. I can't go more than 5 minutes without itching to do something because I'm bored of pressing buttons once every decade. It just feels a little unfair to the DPS trying to milk every little GCD they have if I put in 10% of the effort they do and half afk when running content.

[Tsumes]

I mean personally, I'd be bored out of my skull if I didn't DPS.

I can see where you're coming from with this. In other MMOs I've played it was a rolling issue that healers would often go AFK during fights, and yea. I do get bored sometimes. But's extremely rare and only happens when the tank is extremely good and the DPS is extremely bad. I'll put this way though. I play characters that are more in tune with the way I like to handle life. I'm a laid back person. So button mashing games irritate me. That's why I've always played healing classes. They allow me to enjoy the game without being overwhelmed by the fact that I'm expected to push out every inkle of damage possible.