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    FunkyBunch's Avatar
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    Imai Blackren
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    Ninja Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumes View Post
    I have had numerous 60s tell healers to stop DPSing though. Go figure. You must be a minority.
    We already know you exaggerate, why would anyone believe this?
    You said you did Raids, you're not even 60.
    You said you'd change retract your words if I could show you tangible numbers that showed DPS makes an impact, you decided to double down instead anyways after an actual logged example with numbers.
    You called other people who were trying to help "elitist" and actively promoted poor play.
    Anyways, please stop promoting bad play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    We already know you exaggerate, why would anyone believe this?
    You said you did Raids, you're not even 60.
    You said you'd change retract your words if I could show you tangible numbers that showed DPS makes an impact, you decided to double down instead anyways after an actual logged example with numbers.
    You called other people who were trying to help "elitist" and actively promoted poor play.
    Anyways, please stop promoting bad play.
    There are more raids then just the level 60 ones. If it's under the raid category, it's a raid. Just because it's name doesn't have "savage" in it doesn't make it any less of a raid.
    I don't care if you believe me. Has no effect on me one way or the other. That said, you seem to be dead set on completely ignoring my every attempt at saying you're correct. So I'm just going to assume you're a troll, add you to my ignore list and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumes View Post
    There are more raids then just the level 60 ones. If it's under the raid category, it's a raid. Just because it's name doesn't have "savage" in it doesn't make it any less of a raid.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
    Omg, yes it does lol.
    ROFL. All the other content can be done by brain dead monkeys. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumes View Post
    Healers are hardly in short supply. 9/10 people I've seen with 1 level 60, also has at least one 60 healer. So that argument is moot. Nice try though.
    But no healer joins "in progress" duty finder. Just because people have Healers doesn't mean they queue Duty Finder on one.
    After your 60 for a few months, try out for some end game stuff, then come back and let us know your progress.
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    If you're a WHM in Antitower, you owe it to yourself and the party to at least use the swiftcast Holy + Assize combo to immediately break out both DPS when Dollhouse is used the first time. It immediately frees both DPS, assuming they're close enough to each other.

    It's actually hilarious how a WHM can break the dolls faster than actual DPS classes. WHM burst damage is insane, to the point where I don't understand why any WHM would ever use Assize while not being in Cleric Stance (except for certain raid situations where you need that instant cast AoE cure). 300 potency AoE damage is up there with the likes of Dragonfire Dive and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    If you're a WHM in Antitower, you owe it to yourself and the party to at least use the swiftcast Holy + Assize combo to immediately break out both DPS when Dollhouse is used the first time. It immediately frees both DPS, assuming they're close enough to each other.

    It's actually hilarious how a WHM can break the dolls faster than actual DPS classes. WHM burst damage is insane, to the point where I don't understand why any WHM would ever use Assize while not being in Cleric Stance (except for certain raid situations where you need that instant cast AoE cure). 300 potency AoE damage is up there with the likes of Dragonfire Dive and all.
    Lol, my static WHM hit 2K DPS in A6S last night. The WHM burst opener is incredible, you'd be stupid not to abuse it. For the naysayers who say healer DPS is optional, imagine a 5th person in the group that can open up to 2000 DPS additionally alongside the actual DPS.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    Lol, my static WHM hit 2K DPS in A6S last night. The WHM burst opener is incredible, you'd be stupid not to abuse it. For the naysayers who say healer DPS is optional, imagine a 5th person in the group that can open up to 2000 DPS additionally alongside the actual DPS.
    It's a fun time for WHM/AST burst DPS in A6S with those Blaster mirages and Swindler adds. Plus our AoE stun (along with ACC melds) ends up being very useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumes View Post
    It's their fault for choosing to pick a stacked job. You know it's crowded, yet you willingly subject yourself to it. Where I stand, you have no right to complain about the lack of healers. Nothing is stopping you from running one.
    Haha when I switch to healer I was a little worried about that. But then I decided that if I try to outperform every other healer I meet I should be OK to get with a solid group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Haha when I switch to healer I was a little worried about that. But then I decided that if I try to outperform every other healer I meet I should be OK to get with a solid group.
    I'm not sure if statics appeal to me yet. I kind of like the randomness. If you have a specific goal in mind it works. But then it's like a routine. Routines are too similar to real jobs to me lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumes View Post
    I'm not sure if statics appeal to me yet. I kind of like the randomness. If you have a specific goal in mind it works. But then it's like a routine. Routines are too similar to real jobs to me lol.
    You've got that backwards, you're not for them. There's not a static in the world (that can clear) that would let you play with them unless you change your playstyle. (well unless you paid Gil for clears)
    I've seen main healers dropped for not doing enough DPS, let alone zero. Though, to be honest, I've NEVER seen a healer do zero damage in an endgame raid.
    Even when we only have one healer and 5 DPS, he still DPSs. Because it matters and in the early stages means the difference between a clear and a wipe.

    Also I don't even understand what you're arguing about anymore.
    We already established that:
    DPS>No DPS and DPS makes a significant clear team difference (with facts and logs and statistics and players who actually have real experience)
    Good Healers do DPS
    You aren't 60 and have zero end-game experience so your opinions aren't really relevant about how to play your class optimally
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