Live letter fail

[normalforce]

Ah. Nice response. No one was crying as I've stated it was exactly what I expected it to be. I was merely agreeing with the OP that 1.2 topic was clearly dodged. But just a post ago you said all of that was in the live letter.

Don't know why Yoshi would have talked about 1.2, I don't think he wasn't part of the team at that time. Now 1.20 is another matter...

[Sephrick]

Don't know why Yoshi would have talked about 1.2, I don't think he wasn't part of the team at that time. Now 1.20 is another matter...

It's the same thing.

1.2 = 1.20

1.2 /= 1.02

[normalforce]

It's the same thing.

1.2 = 1.20

1.2 /= 1.02

Only to the ignorant. 1.2 reads major version 1, minor version 2. 1.20 reads major version 1, minor version 20. It has nothing to do with the decimal system you learned in math.

Regardless, I think the live letter worked out as well as could be expected when questions are randomly picked from the twitter feed. I would have preferred a normal, not-so-live, letter from the producer though.

[Delsus]

Only to the ignorant. 1.2 reads major version 1, minor version 2. 1.20 reads major version 1, minor version 20. It has nothing to do with the decimal system you learned in math.

Regardless, I think the live letter worked out as well as could be expected when questions are randomly picked from the twitter feed. I would have preferred a normal, not-so-live, letter from the producer though.

So what about the fact that we havent had 20 patches yet? therefore its not minor version 20, also what about devs that go from 1.20, straight to 1.30, when there havent been 10 patches, also when this game started with these patches was 1.15, and sure as hell there werent 15 patches before then.

You logic is completly wrong in this matter.

[Sephrick]

Only to the ignorant. 1.2 reads major version 1, minor version 2. 1.20 reads major version 1, minor version 20. It has nothing to do with the decimal system you learned in math.

As a journalist and, moreso, an editor, I can sit here and rage all day about the lack of grammar and punctuation rampant on this and any online forum. But just like with the 1.2 thing, I choose to let it go as long as the implied meaning is understood.

We don't know SE's internal conventions with describing the version number. For all we know they could have said major 1 minor 1 sub 9 or something. Which would make major 1 minor 2 correct. We'll never know because we didn't see this naming convention back when it was either 1.2 or 1.02.

Whatever you call it, though. Yoshi didn't talk about it.

[Jinko]

How does one determine what questions are "twitter questions" and what questions are from the forums, to make such a scientific analysis that the latter were ignored in favor of the former? I'd be very interested in hearing!

Did you even read what I was responding too ?

Patience is out of reach for 90% of the community on these forums.

After a year of waiting Patience can indeed grow short :P

[Delsus]

Did you even read what I was responding too ?



After a year of waiting Patience can indeed grow short :P

DO you even know what they are doing with the game, they are completly rebuilding it, the game origanally took 5 years to make, so they are rebuilding a game that took 5 years to make, so if you look at the big picture 2 years is not that bad, you seem to know nothing about game development, and they take time, its not easy to make a MMO especially if you have to rebuild a game as broken as this is, which is why they chose the route they have, they know that they cannot salvage the current game so they are using it as a way to test all the changes in content and class balancing so v2 works, (unless our resident software version expert is going to rage about me saying v2)

[Betelgeuzah]

Did you even read what I was responding too ?

He wasn't correct either. Two wrongs make a right?

[Bethor]

DO you even know what they are doing with the game, they are completly rebuilding it, the game origanally took 5 years to make, so they are rebuilding a game that took 5 years to make, so if you look at the big picture 2 years is not that bad, you seem to know nothing about game development, and they take time, its not easy to make a MMO especially if you have to rebuild a game as broken as this is, which is why they chose the route they have, they know that they cannot salvage the current game so they are using it as a way to test all the changes in content and class balancing so v2 works, (unless our resident software version expert is going to rage about me saying v2)

They might be working on a big invention with V2.0 but... like you said. They've been working for 5 years and the release was more or less a big fail, well at least to me.
And now they basically need another 5 years to actually achieve what they've originally planned for it. I'm really dissapointed.

It feels like they've been developing "this and that" for a while and suddenly... "oh shit we need a completly new idea to compete with other MMO's, so we better rewrite everything we've done in the past years".
It probably isn't like that... but it definatly feels like it.

And if they really add stuff like a "Dungeon Browser" and similiar things to try to catch those casuals out there.... good luck with that. If there are too many copy & pasted parts from other MMO's it won't feel like a "new designed MMO" which they're trying to invent.
There might be nothing wrong with selecting working parts from other MMO's... but imagine someone's been playing WoW for a while now and is used to the easyness of the most ingame tools.
And now someone is trying to appeal them for FFXIV and the player see the same things just slighty reworked... not really enough to draw them away.

Ah well these discussions are plenty in the forums, everything's been said a numerous times already. But a lot of people are just dissapointed. That might be different in a few years, but now it's really sad since the most player like the FF games.

And... who the fucking hell needs a jumping feature X-x

[syntaxlies]

True story. So glad I didn't stay up for this none sense. Once bitten, twice shy.

Where's all the "1.20 and beyond" info? 2013 is definitely beyond, but there's three patches till then.

List of topics that should have been covered:

1) Class change info. (It's more than a month late)
2) State of leveling crafts and any plans to address associated issues.
3) A reason why we should pay for months vs paying for one month prior to 2.0 release and doing all content in one fell swoop.
4) How we're expected to achieve anything till 2.0 when our biggest opponent is server lag.
5) Job info outside Cnj/Whm, Thm/Blm. How will brd work when it originates from a dd? Will PLd be the only tank? What is being done to ensure Drg/War/Mnk stand on equal ground?
6) What is the combo system?
7) How soon are our 1.19 extra inventory slots being taken away?
8) When will recipe changes be finalized?
9) Target date for 1.20.
10) Lastly, a list of what is expected to actually make it into 1.20 since its likely on its way to quality assurance any day now.

you forgot one, what do they have planed for the new bat reg system.