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    Avatar von Croweyes
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    Rouvaldr Zazan
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    Marodeur Lv 100
    Duel wielding is extremely overrated.
    (2)
    Challenge the weak to make them strong.

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    Player Avatar von Kosmos992k
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Zitat Zitat von Croweyes Beitrag anzeigen
    Duel wielding is extremely overrated.
    In reality, yes. But this is not reality, it's fantasy, and in fictional, fantasy settings, dual wielding is awesome.
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    In reality, yes. But this is not reality, it's fantasy, and in fictional, fantasy settings, dual wielding is awesome.
    Meh, opinion's, just cause its fantasy doesn't mean duel wield is " le cool, awesome "

    I am forever thankful Machinest is single handed gunner. Will I riot if some class [ like samurai ] be duel wielding a weapon? Not really, though i'm willing to bet some one will actually cry over it if they don't.
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    Challenge the weak to make them strong.

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    Avatar von TheFatHousecat
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    Deepening Shadow
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    Krieger Lv 70
    My blackmage doesn't feel special enough. I want to dual wield twin Dalamuds to bring down on my enemies every time i cast fire

    Also as a Roe I feel like I should be entitled to pick up and dual wield lalafells
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    Avatar von Cynric
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Viper Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von MistakeNot Beitrag anzeigen
    Never. There is no such thing as "proper" dual wielding. If you look historically - back when they actually used swords, axes, etc. to fight - nobody ever[*] used two weapons at once. When possible weapon+shield or (rarely) a 2h-weapon was much preferred.


    [*] There is actually one well-known exception. The use of rapier+dagger was not uncommon during the renaissance, but that is just about the only historically documented occurence of using two weapons at once.
    Musashi?
    Kodachi are primarily dual.
    Short swords+ bucklers,
    Axe+shortsword,double axe,
    Scimitars, katars,etc.

    I think you only know about English weapon history and barely that.
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    Avatar von MistakeNot
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Zitat Zitat von Cynric Beitrag anzeigen
    Musashi?
    Miyamoto Musashi is noted for having used two swords, yes. Noted, because it was quite unusual to do so.

    Kodachi are primarily dual.
    Are they? Or rather - were they that back when they were used for real? Not a weapon I am really familiar with but if one is to believe Wikipedia it is not really known how it was used historically.

    Short swords+ bucklers,
    Bucklers are a type of shield. All sorts of one-handed weapons have been used together with shields.


    Axe+shortsword,double axe,
    Scimitars, katars,etc.
    The katar, being a type of dagger, might sometimes have been used as an off-hand weapon - much like the main gauche in Europe.
    The rest of those weapons were rarely if ever used in pairs as far as I can tell.



    I think you only know about English weapon history and barely that.
    A bit more than that. While I wouldn't consider myself an expert, I do have better-than-average knowledge of historical European and Japanese weaponry.
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    Avatar von PeachPapaya
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    Itza Trap
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 51
    Zitat Zitat von MistakeNot Beitrag anzeigen
    Miyamoto Musashi is noted for having used two swords, yes. Noted, because it was quite unusual to do so..
    But Musashi made an entire school for the practical application of dual wielding. We have written evience, scrolls depoctiing technique and kata, including the actual school that still exists.
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    Avatar von TankHunter678
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    Selena Zensh
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    Siren
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    Maschinist Lv 80
    The biggest issue with making a "proper" dual wielding class that has its weapons split over 2 item slots is that it doubles the amount of farm time.

    Imagine having to do the relic grind twice for one class, and having to suffer a major DPS drop because one relic is not the same ilvl as the other relic.

    Imagine having to grind for 14 weeks for your weapons to be on the same ilvl, just so you do not suffer the DPS loss.

    These kind of issues is why both Rogue/Ninja and Pugilist/Monk have their dual weapons in a single item slot. Otherwise those classes would be held back considerably harder then any other class. The only other option would be to cut down the farm time and double the drop rate just for those class's weapons so that they are "comparable". Though that can also create the issue of them drowning out other class gear drops, or getting geared up too fast making them the raider classes since they progress faster.
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    Geändert von TankHunter678 (01.07.16 um 11:35 Uhr)

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    Avatar von Morningstar1337
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturg Lv 80
    Zitat Zitat von TankHunter678 Beitrag anzeigen
    These kind of issues is why both Rogue/Ninja and Pugilist/Monk have their dual weapons in a single item slot. Otherwise those classes would be held back considerably harder then any other class. The only other option would be to cut down the farm time and double teh drop rate just for those class's weapons so that they are "comparable". Though that can also create the issue of them drowning out other class gear drops, or getting geared up too fast making them the raider classes since they progress faster.
    You know PLD doesn't have to retake the same quests to get the sword an shield, they get both from the end of one quest

    /justsayin'
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    Imoen Orunitia
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Morningstar1337 Beitrag anzeigen
    You know PLD doesn't have to retake the same quests to get the sword an shield, they get both from the end of one quest

    /justsayin'
    They said drop rate. Last I checked, quests don't drop rate things.

    /justsayin' :P

    (Just in case the emoji wasn't enough... it was a jest.)
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    Geändert von Imoen (01.07.16 um 12:12 Uhr)
    Me: "Aww man I'm clicking all the wrong buttons tonight!"
    Friend: "You're i190, you can't click a wrong button unless it is no buttons"
    Me: "lol"

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