I figure since they haven't replied in either thread on this subject that they have no clue what's going and and are still looking into the problem and/or excuse as to why these threads haven't been responded to. Either way aall I know is that I just had to re-register because my "recurring sub" mysteriously didn't recur with cash in the back. So either way daylight is burning and I'm getting more and more perturbed since that maintenance on primal that didn't seem to do anything at all