Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 37
  1. #21
    Player
    Vexander's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Sharlyan
    Posts
    1,290
    Character
    Rin Black
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    And yet, we have the 7 Celestial Dragons, who *only* have a father (because dragons reproduce asexually)

    Daughter/Son doesn't have mean anything here.
    That's a fair point. Still, the DRK quests imply something else, a duality of sorts. If Hydaelyn is pure light, I don't think the WoL could -be- a Dark Knight.
    (0)

  2. #22
    Player
    Lambdafish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Ul-Dah
    Posts
    3,927
    Character
    Khuja'to Binbotaj
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Well I counter your theory with one of my own, similar but different enough. Zodiark's rebirth will come about from the warriors of darkness. The theory is similar but instead of us being zodiark incarnate, the warriors of darkness are, and are being molded by Elidibus in order to become strong enough, and cause enough chaos (calamaties) to ascend and be reborn.

    Now we have grown in power based on the foes we have fought, thordan remarks at our power and (end of 3.3 MSQ spoiler)
    we use a dragon's eye to defeat nidhogg
    so how would we defeat zodiark reborn? We would also ascend as the embodiment of Hydalyn herself, not only her champion through blessing, but literally a part of her manifested on the planet.

    Now to add a little extra to this amazing image, this battle cannot be fought in eorzea, the world would be ruined by two gods clashing, so naturally it's on the moon.
    (4)
    Last edited by Lambdafish; 07-01-2016 at 12:19 PM.

  3. #23
    Player
    squeakchan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    27
    Character
    Eon Reaver
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    If we are aspects of Zodiark, maybe the Ascians are trying to kill us in some Horcrux-type thing? Zodiark can't be reborn until all his "pieces" return to the Source or something, and us stubbornly still living makes that kind of hard?
    (4)

  4. #24
    Player
    Frederick22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    1,353
    Character
    Frederick Blake
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    That's a fair point. Still, the DRK quests imply something else, a duality of sorts. If Hydaelyn is pure light, I don't think the WoL could -be- a Dark Knight.
    the darkness that DRK has no relation with zordiark.
    Think it as a inner beast.


    There is much complex situation of hydaelyn = light, zodiark = darkness.
    It doest mean that if zordiark banished, all darkness will banish too.

    I recomend you to read cilia's threads about DRK
    (1)

  5. #25
    Player
    Yasuhiro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,225
    Character
    Marie Antoinette
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 76
    A55: To be absolutely clear, there is no connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice. Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel. Each are their own individual world. Based on this, there are connections between the things that appear in the world, and we’ll be revealing more in the future
    .

    Final Fantasy XI Goblins must be dimensional travelers then, did they ask Doctor Shantotto to send them to Eorzea? that last line sounds interesting though, always had my own head canon that Final Fantasy XIV is like a nexus for all things FF.
    model recycling harms this games lore we need a bestiary please Square Enix!


    OT: I love OP's theory actually.
    Then there would be Thordan´s "WHAT are you" and the DRK storyline and the fact that Zodiark is missing and needs to be revived.
    Thordan's line and the visual that accompanies it really implies that the WoL is much more than he seems, a few people on 2ch like to believe WoL is actually a primal.
    (0)
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

  6. #26
    Player
    Cilia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The Hermit's Hovel
    Posts
    3,692
    Character
    Trpimir Ratyasch
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Still, the DRK quests imply something else, a duality of sorts. If Hydaelyn is pure light, I don't think the WoL could -be- a Dark Knight.
    Not exactly?

    The darkness wielded by a Dark Knight is the darkness of their own heart, not that of Zodiark. More specifically, it's harnessing all the darker emotions you normally repress - rage, hate, battle lust, etc. - for a noble cause that is personally meaningful (that personal meaningfulness is very important - you can't utilize the full power of darkness without it). Compare to the Ascians, who use Zodiark's power for a cause they may believe in and enjoy but would carry out simply because it's their duty.

    It's a subtle difference, but clear as night and day if you can see it.

    ... of course, that's not to say the darkness within the hearts of men isn't because of Zodiark, as Ramuh seems to muse, or that Hydaelyn and Zodiark aren't sort of two halves of the same whole. Still, such musing is merely conjecture, and I'm not keen on that sort of thing.
    (1)

  7. #27
    Player
    Vexander's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Sharlyan
    Posts
    1,290
    Character
    Rin Black
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    My point was if we are descended purely from Hydaelyn, then we logically should only possess those aspects of her nature, which is embodied by Light and purely good emotions, so employing the powers of a DRK such as rage, hate, etc... would not be possible if Hydaelyn were our mother, and there was no other parent. As Cilia said, Ramuh himself notes there is darkness in men. Whether it's from Zodiark or not, who knows? I'm inclined to think Zodiark plays some role in the world, even if he's been sealed away elsewhere. The Ascians are able to come and go as they please, after all. It indicates some measure of influence Zodiark has.
    (1)

  8. #28
    Player
    Cipher_Zaabiz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    192
    Character
    Cipher Zaabiz
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Remembers me of the avatar korra Ark with the good being fused together with the avatar to defeat and seal the dark being of chaos.

    Perhaps this is a similar case here. Even having hyadelins blessing doesn't make you a saint. You are still a mortal with failures, but more divine than others.

    Looking forward to the battle between harmony and discord.
    (0)

  9. #29
    Player
    Catapult's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Lotus Gardens
    Posts
    3,240
    Character
    Thal Icebound
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    At the end of The Fate of Stars, the most recent Warring Triad quest, Unukalhai tells us the following (text extract yoinked from Gamerescape):
    Once again, I must apologize for acting without your consent or counsel. As a gesture of repentance and a sign of good faith, allow me to share something of myself with you.
    As Urianger suggested, I possess the gift of the Echo...though it is of a nature different from yours.

    Regardless, I would use my gift for the selfsame purpose─the salvation of this star. And nothing─nothing─poses a greater threat to the world than the proliferation of primal-harnessing technology. This I know only too well.

    ...What I am about to divulge concerns the fate of another star entirely. On this other world, a magick was devised that allowed the realm's champions to use a stone known as “auracite” to contain the power of primals.

    So armed, these heroic souls conquered god after god, oblivious to their weapon's fatal imperfection: its propensity to bleed primal energies. And with each victory, the heroes changed, transforming at last into fiends of endless appetite. Insatiable in their hunger for aether, they ultimately went to war over the star's ever-dwindling life force...

    ...And fought until there was nothing left.
    Thus, as Urianger so astutely observed, when I am faced with those who rush to embrace power unchecked, I lose all semblance of rationality.

    Know that my master, too, cares deeply about the fate of this star. I am his servant─his instrument─sent here to ensure that the same tragedy does not consume another world.


    And so, if you are looking for a better place to operate from when considering what the Warrior of Light was, is, or may become, I'd suggest starting here.
    (0)

  10. #30
    Player
    Cilia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The Hermit's Hovel
    Posts
    3,692
    Character
    Trpimir Ratyasch
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    At the end of The Fate of Stars, the most recent Warring Triad quest, Unukalhai tells us the following (text extract yoinked from Gamerescape):

    ...

    And so, if you are looking for a better place to operate from when considering what the Warrior of Light was, is, or may become, I'd suggest starting here.
    Not this again...

    ... while it's true we do use Auracite, it is specifically White Auracite which was noted by Moenbryda to have a very limited containment time, so unless a refinement technique is devised it's not suitable for use as an aether battery. Furthermore we don't use it to contain primals, but only to contain an Ascian until we can blast them to oblivion with a Blade of Light.

    Of course, the possibility that this may happen remains. Yet we haven't seen any signs of it yet, and Unukalhai has no ire to bear us, only the Garleans for trying to use Allagan tech much in the same way as those from his tale.
    (1)

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Tags for this Thread